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Re: Lebeau
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 December 12 16:57 GMT (UK) »
There are baptism records to view on line for 4 of James & Eliza Ann Le Beau's children,
Joseph, Eliza, Frederick & Mary Ann

Do you want them or do you have access ?
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 December 12 17:00 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou but I think I have the children but I got 5.

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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 December 12 18:14 GMT (UK) »
Low and behold looks like I have got back to French ancestors. I think. I have a Daniel Lebeau born 1715 at La Patente french Hugenot Spitalfields. This is french refugees isnt it?

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 13 December 12 18:58 GMT (UK) »
L I think. I have a Daniel Lebeau born 1715 at La Patente french Hugenot Spitalfields.

You have been busy - not sure if this will help

http://www.huguenotsociety.org.uk/
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Re: Lebeau
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 13 December 12 19:18 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou.

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Re: Lebeau
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Hello Wade82,


This family were indeed French Huguenots, they were originally from the North East of France, Picardy, and fled to Holland in the 1680's where they were part of the Haarlem congregation, and were one of a group of related Picard families, including my own ancestors the Deverduns, who moved on again to London between 1701-3.


Here are Daniel and his sibling's baptisms from La Patente:


LE BAUX 8 Jan 1715/16  Daniel, son of  Jean Le Baux and Susanne Tieras
Godfather Daniel Tieras. Godmother Judith Hannotaux.Born 27 Dec 1715.  J. Babault, presiding minister.

LE BEAU
27 July 1718 Susanne, daughter of Jean Le Beau and Susanne Tieras, living in Spitalfields
Godfather Daniel Grossier. Godmother Marie Flauvant. Born same day  J. Jembelin, presiding minister.

LE BEAUX 16 Oct 1720 Judith, daughter of Jean Le Beaux and Susanne, his wife
Godfather Jean Baptiste  Cossar. Godmother Judith Le Monnier. Born 10th October. Balguerie de Chautard, presiding minister.

LE BEAU 13 Jan 1723 Thimotee, son of  Jean Le Beau & Susanne Le Beau, his wife
Godfather Daniel Le Beau Godmother Judith Latour. Born 3rd January. De la Douespe, presiding minister.

LE BEAU 22 Nov 1724 Susanne, daughter of Jean Le Beau and Susanne Thieras
Godfather David Resiguer. Godmother Madeleine Thieras.  Born 2nd Nov. J. Jembelin, presiding minister.

LE BEAU 5 Feb 1726 Jean, son of Jean Le Beau, native of Holland, and Susanne Thirard
Godfather Daniel Thirard, Godmother Madelaine Grossier. Born 30 Jan. David Durand, minister of St Martin Ongar presiding.

LE BEAU 25 Dec 1727 Jean, son of Jean Le Beau and Susanne Tirar
Godfather child's father, Godmother Elizabeth Le Monnier. Born 17 Dec. J. Prelleur, presiding minister.

LEBEAU 31 Oct 1731 Anne Judith, daught of  Jean Lebeau, originally of Holland, and Susanne Tirar originally of London
Godfather Antoine Duverdin, Godmother Anne Delamare. Born the 11th October.  Jean Manuel, Presiding minister.

LEBEAU 1 Jan 1735 Elizabeth, daughter of Jean Lebeau, native of Haarlem in Holland, and Susanne Tirar, native of London
Godfather Louis Helloc. Godmother Elizabeth Lebeau. Born 13 December. Balguerie de Chautard, presiding minister.



The Godfather of Anne Judith. Antoine Duverdin/Deverdun is my own ancestor, my 8 x great grandfather. Jean Lebeau in turn had stood as godfather to one of Anthoine's daughter's Anne seven years previously. They also stood as godparents together for other children born to couples who had come to London from the Haarlem congregation.


As the baptisms above suggest Daniel's father Jean Lebeau was born in Holland. He was baptised there  27 January 1697 in the Haarlem Waals Kirk (Walloon Church) which the French Protestant refugees living there used. His parents were Jean Lebeau, of Guise, Aisne, Picardy, and Judith Hannoteau who were married in the Waals Kirk, Haarlem on 1 April 1696. They left Holland for England on 20th May 1703. Jean's brother Daniel and his wife had already come over two years earlier in June 1701 (The Deverdun family had come to London the year in between late 1702).


In regards Daniel's mother Susanne Tirar/Tieras/Thirard, she died in 'La Providence' The Charity Hospital set up in London for the French protestant refugees and their descendants. She applied there  28 August 1762 as Susanne Lebeau nee Tirard, describing herself as 74 years of age, the widow of Jean Lebeau of Picardy, France and the daughter of Daniel Tirard of Oleron in St Onge, France. Her reason for application was dire poverty and destitution. She was approved and admitted 19 Feb 1763 and died there ten years later on 18 December 1773.


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Richard

Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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Re: Lebeau
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 11:26 GMT (UK) »
Wow Thankyou very much Richard highly appriecited.
Merry christmas 8)

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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 11:35 GMT (UK) »
No problem at all Wade, I'll have a look in the London registers to see if I can find a baptism for Susanne in London and any sign of what became of her family here. The spelling of their surname seems very fluid. It's the same with my Deverduns, I have found them spelt over 63 different ways to date! Doesn't help in finding them.

Merry Christmas to you too.
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London

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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 12:06 GMT (UK) »
Found her baptism:

TIRAR, Suzanne, Daughter of Daniel Tirar and Elizabeth, his wife. Godfather Thomas Guerard and Suzanne Boson. Baptised April 10 1692 Threadneedle Street French Huguenot Church London.

I cannot find any evidence of when exactly they arrived, though Susanne had at least one sibling a sister Madeliene baptised at same church the year before 1691.

Neither Daniel or Elizabeth seem to have died in the French Hospital, although a son Daniel was admitted temporarily in January of 1748/9, then aged 60, so probably born around 1689/90. He describes himself as born in Leyde (Leiden), Holland son of Daniel Tirar of St Onge France. This then seems to suggest this family also first fled to Holland before moving on again to London around 1690.

He was admitted suffering from an 'alienation of spirit' which was their standard terminolgy for any sort of depression or mental listlessness. The French Hospital was quite ahead of it's contemporaries at this time in taking and treating patients suffering from these maladies. It appears fairly serious, his case files in fact says he had been suicidal at time of his admittance and had regularly made threats to his family that he intended to take his own life, and it was them who were asking  for him to be treated. He was taken in for 15 months, and seems to have made a full recovery, and was released back to his family and  never re-admitted. In comparison their English neighbours suffering the same sort of troubles at that time might well have expected to be locked up in an asylum for life with little to no treatment.

A sad case but interesting to get a picture of their lives. Times were very hard for the journeymen French weavers in London, especially in the 1740's which saw several 'Arctic Winters'. A lot of them suffered similar breakdowns.


Regards


Richard
Bellenger, Sebire, Soubien, Mallandain, Molle, Baudoin - Normandy/London
Deverdun, Bachelier, Hannoteau, Martin, Ledoux, Dumoutier, Lespine, Montenont, Picard, Desmarets - Paris & Picardy/Amsterdam/London
Mourgue, Chambon, Chabot - Languedoc/London

Holohan, Donnelly, McGowan/McGoan - Leitrim, Ireland/Dundee, Scotland/London.

Gordon, Troup, Grant, Watt, McInnes - Aberdeenshire, Scotland/London