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Re: Helen Turnbull (Parents Turnbull/Aitken)
« Reply #27 on: Monday 07 January 13 18:10 GMT (UK) »
Little Susan born 1860 died it seems from the index (mother showing as Storrer) in 1865 in Canongate :-\ Both parents still alive and still living at Brown's Court in Canongate.

Can't easily see the death of mother Susan in Scotland with the names we have  :-\

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Re: Helen Turnbull (Parents Turnbull/Aitken)
« Reply #28 on: Monday 07 January 13 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Transcribed as Scobbie on another site.

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Re: Helen Turnbull (Parents Turnbull/Aitken)
« Reply #29 on: Monday 07 January 13 18:18 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census - New Row, Perth

Hannah Storer   Widow   42    Milliner    b. Perth, Perthshire
John Scobie   46      Gardener                     ditto
Susan Storer  30                                        ditto
David Scobie   10                                       ditto

So, as happens in Scotland time and time again, Susan shown under her maiden name even though married.

I'm wondering if David Alexander Scobie had something to hide - why enlist and marry as Alexander (not Scobie) and why state he was born in Leeds, England when he was born in Perth.

Something decidedly fishy methinks.

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Re: Helen Turnbull (Parents Turnbull/Aitken)
« Reply #30 on: Monday 07 January 13 18:26 GMT (UK) »
Hannah from 1851 maybe a sister to Susan? She also showed as a widow in 1861 as McGlashan.

Why can't we (I!!) find Susan's death I wonder?

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Re: Helen Turnbull (Parents Turnbull/Aitken)
« Reply #31 on: Monday 07 January 13 18:47 GMT (UK) »
1871 John and Susan are lodgers in Edinburgh Canongate - surname transcribed on one site as Stobber (Susan shown as Susan Storn Stobber).

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Re: Helen Turnbull (Parents Turnbull/Aitken)
« Reply #32 on: Monday 07 January 13 18:50 GMT (UK) »
By 1881 John Scobie has died - Susan is in St. Cuthberts Poorhouse, Edinburgh as Scobbie - gardeners widow.

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Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

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Re: Helen Turnbull (Parents Turnbull/Aitken)
« Reply #33 on: Monday 07 January 13 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear - no proof* whatsover (apart from the gardener bit) :

Death - Apri l3 1893, St Cuthberts Poorhouse, Edinburgh

Susan Scobbie, pauper, widow of --- Scobbie, gardener. Aged 77. No parents' given. Senile Debility.
Informant was Assistant Governor of the Poorhouse

*Added - also what Annette has found in previous posting  :)

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Re: Helen Turnbull (Parents Turnbull/Aitken)
« Reply #34 on: Monday 07 January 13 19:15 GMT (UK) »
Have we got this:

Death 31 July 1877 John Scobbie, gardener.Aged 77. Married to Susan Storrer. St Cuthberts Poorhouse, Edinburgh

Parents - David Scobbie, Fisherman and Janet, m.s. Irvine, both deceased.
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Re: Helen Turnbull (Parents Turnbull/Aitken)
« Reply #35 on: Monday 07 January 13 19:32 GMT (UK) »
No, we didn't have that previously. Given first born son David's name, looks likely don't you think?

Also saw the following. If we think that Hannah McGlashan/Storrar may be a possible sister to Susan, there is this possible entry https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FM9Y-XKM

At a guess, could David born 1841 have been called after both grandfathers (David and Alexander)?

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