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Re: Create A Free Website
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 16 December 12 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dai

Point whoever said that to the GRO Birth index on FreeBMD which includes mothers maiden name for births after 1911.
I would however consider not including living people on your tree without their permission.

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Re: Create A Free Website
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 16 December 12 14:46 GMT (UK) »
Hello ArthurK,

These might help for a start:
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/webmaster/article.php/3473341/SSI-The-Include-Command.htm#can
http://www.ssi-developer.net/ssi/ssi_page_template.shtml

And this, if it prints properly in this message is my falconer index file:

menu_falconer_full.shtml - note the extension starts with an S and that I have included 3 files to create what you see on the screen.

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
    "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html lang='en' xml:lang='en' xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

<html>
<head>
     <title>menu_falconer_full</title>
     <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1" />
     <meta name="revisit-after" content="20 days">
      <meta name="robots" content="all">
    
     <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="..\menucss\reset.css" />
      <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="..\menucss\style-b.css" />
     <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="..\menucss\lorna.css" />
</head>
<body>
   
   <!--#include virtual="../menu_main_links.html" -->

   <!--#include virtual="../falconer/menu_falconer_body.html" -->                
            
   <!--#include virtual="../falconer/menu_falconer_links.html" -->
   
</body>
</html>


I'll have a look at the slashes, thanks

falcybe
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Re: Create A Free Website
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 16 December 12 14:51 GMT (UK) »
Hello ArthurK again,

I have just clicked on the site:
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~haydencowan/
and I can see only forward slashes in the 3 links: Cowan, Lacey and Falconer and they all work fine for me

Isn't computing fun.....
Hayden Cowan Weir Jowett Barclay Howard Gooch Joiner Rayner Ash Travers Coltman Samuel Falconer Lacey Croton Clarke Robinson Alden Burroughs
Ford Lusty Jones Wice Wise Scorey Rayner Harding Bacon Chambers and lots more
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Re: Create A Free Website
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 16 December 12 15:55 GMT (UK) »
I have just clicked on the site:
http://freepages.family.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~haydencowan/
and I can see only forward slashes in the 3 links: Cowan, Lacey and Falconer and they all work fine for me

Still not working for me. It's the page with the pictures and Christmas card where I'm having problems, in the menu of names at the top where only Cowan, Lacey and Falconer are active. On the Main Menu page (from link alongside) it's fine. I wonder if it might be a browser issue? I'm using Firefox, which as far as I know wouldn't mangle a link, but maybe a different browser would correct one that was wrong.

Thanks for the links to the other things - I haven't had chance to look yet, though.

Arthur


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Re: Create A Free Website
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 16 December 12 16:03 GMT (UK) »
From memory it is a browser prob. I use IE and prior to version 7 I could get away with things that FF, following the rules, didn't like. Now that IE, 9, follows the rules I thought that compatibility probs were a thing of the past. I shall investigate when I have 5 mins.
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Ford Lusty Jones Wice Wise Scorey Rayner Harding Bacon Chambers and lots more
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Re: Create A Free Website
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 16 December 12 16:19 GMT (UK) »
These might help for a start:
http://www.htmlgoodies.com/beyond/webmaster/article.php/3473341/SSI-The-Include-Command.htm#can
http://www.ssi-developer.net/ssi/ssi_page_template.shtml

And this, if it prints properly in this message is my falconer index file:

menu_falconer_full.shtml - note the extension starts with an S and that I have included 3 files to create what you see on the screen.

Thanks for that - it explains why what I saw in the source of the page I viewed didn't look any different from a "normal" html document. The books and programs that I've used for learning and writing html don't go into SSI, but it seems a useful tool - maybe one day I'll give it a try.

As you may have discovered, using frames or an iframe tag at Rootsweb means that the advertising banner gets repeated at the top of each frame/iframe, so this is evidently one way round that problem.

Arthur

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Re: Create A Free Website
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 16 December 12 16:21 GMT (UK) »
I've just had a look at your site, Arthur, very nice. I can see that you would benefit from SSI files. A word of caution re putting census info on view. The info itself is not copyright but the presentation, if taken from another site, definitely is so you'll have to type it out again with your format.
Hayden Cowan Weir Jowett Barclay Howard Gooch Joiner Rayner Ash Travers Coltman Samuel Falconer Lacey Croton Clarke Robinson Alden Burroughs
Ford Lusty Jones Wice Wise Scorey Rayner Harding Bacon Chambers and lots more
Click on the little house on the left to go to our site

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Re: Create A Free Website
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 16 December 12 16:33 GMT (UK) »
I've just had a look at your site, Arthur, very nice. I can see that you would benefit from SSI files. A word of caution re putting census info on view. The info itself is not copyright but the presentation, if taken from another site, definitely is so you'll have to type it out again with your format.
Thanks for this - I'd been thinking it would be the menus that might benefit from using SSI, but having got as far as I have (and still not completed every page with the latest redesign) it might be something to consider next time I do a major revamp, rather than straight away.

Thanks too for the census reminder - I'm aware of the copyright issue re presentation, so was intending to set it out in my own way.

Arthur

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Re: Create A Free Website
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 16 December 12 17:25 GMT (UK) »
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As you may have discovered, using frames or an iframe tag at Rootsweb means that the advertising banner gets repeated at the top of each frame/iframe, so this is evidently one way round that problem.

I hadn't used frames on this site but I found that using Div's with absolute (and presumably relative) positioning created havoc with the adverts appearing in odd places. To overcome this problem I have reverted to using tables while studying other possibilities.

I have corrected the \ / error, mia culpa but IE corrects the error while FF renders it 'as is' which is why I had missed it. If you refresh my index on your computer it should now work fine, thanks.

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next time I do a major revamp, rather than straight away

It may be beneficial to create a "menu" page, just the bare bones without any opening or closing headers/html/body tags and make a couple of SSI ready pages to see how it goes. Then if all is well you could complete the current redesign with SSI and even copy the "include code" over your existing code in all the finished pages.

If you wish to experiment on your pc before uploading to Rootsweb then you will need to install Xampp on your computer:
http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp.html
You install it to C: so it becomes C:\xampp.....
You then navigate to each page you create under the sub folder:
C:\xampp\htdocs....
as if you are going onto the WWW and you will have something like:
http://localhost/Lorna/index.html in your browser, the Lorna here being a sub-folder under htdocs.

I use HTML-Kit  -  http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ to edit my pages and this programme has a button to preview in the browser.
Hayden Cowan Weir Jowett Barclay Howard Gooch Joiner Rayner Ash Travers Coltman Samuel Falconer Lacey Croton Clarke Robinson Alden Burroughs
Ford Lusty Jones Wice Wise Scorey Rayner Harding Bacon Chambers and lots more
Click on the little house on the left to go to our site