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HAMMER Family Tree
« on: Monday 10 December 12 03:11 GMT (UK) »
Hi - I am looking to see if anyone has any on Edward Hammer born in 1862. He married Mary Anne Rickard in Broken Hill/Silverton in 1886. He was a boilermaked in Broken Hill. They had 10 Children.  They all moved to Semaphore in Adelaide. Edward Hammer passed away 24 October 1947.

There is only very limited info I have been able to locate. He was a private person. Stories I have been told were that his mother put him on a ship from Holand at a very young age (around 12) bound for England because of a plague outbrack in Holand.  He apparently left England and "jumped" ship and ended up in Broken Hill in his early teens.

I have info from the time he was married but nothing prior to this

Cheers

Kathy

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Re: Hammer Family Tree
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 December 12 08:26 GMT (UK) »
Do you know where he was born?
FreeBMD has more than one possibility, that's England and Wale - though your post implies maybe Holland?
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: Hammer Family Tree
« Reply #2 on: Monday 10 December 12 08:35 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Do you have his marriage certificate and death certificate I believe in Australia this should give his parents details.

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Hammer Family Tree
« Reply #3 on: Monday 10 December 12 09:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have found this record

New South Wales Australia Police Gazette 1854-1930

Deserter From H I German Majesty's War Ship

From the "OGLA" 21st May 1889

Edward Hammer, 24 years of age, 5ft 10" High, Slender Build, Dark Brown Hair, High Forehead, Brown Eyes, Brown Moustache, Defective Teeth, Oval Chin, Soars On Wrist, a native of Mannheim, speaks only German £5.00 Reward

Margp   
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich


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Re: Hammer Family Tree
« Reply #4 on: Monday 10 December 12 10:00 GMT (UK) »
So it looks like he was already married when he jumped ship ??? so how did he get to Australia in the first place

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich

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Re: Hammer Family Tree
« Reply #5 on: Monday 10 December 12 11:22 GMT (UK) »
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I am looking to see if anyone has any on Edward Hammer born in 1862

Article about the SMS Olga in Sydney Harbour on 17 Apr 1889.
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sid/

Hi

Do you have his marriage certificate and death certificate I believe in Australia this should give his parents details.

Margp

His NSW marriage certificate should give his parents names but understand there often blanks on the registrations. The death certificate in South Australia will not detail his parents names.

Marriage with mistranscribed surname.

7623/1886
HAMMEN Edward
RICKARD Mary A
District Silverton

If you wish to purchase a transcription of their marriage from an accredited transcription agent[cheaper than the certified certificate] I think you need to order using the mistranscribed name on the index but the registration number would bring up the correct registration anyway.    I am more familiar with Vic records.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm#TranscriptionAgent

You could also contact for information.
http://www.bhlibrary.org.au/archives.html
Local Studies Collection
An extensive range of local history resources is available to the researcher, including books, article files, newspapers, photographs, maps and plans.   Local newspapers are on microfilm and date back to the 1880's.

The Mail 23 Nov 1929
HAMMER The Friends of Mr. EDWARD HAMMER are respectfully Informed that the Funeral of his late WIFE (Annie Mary) will Leave bis Residence. Fairford terrace, Ethelton, on SUNDAY, at 3.30 pm.. for the Cheltenham Cemetery

The Advertiser  29 Nov 1929
OBITUARY
Mrs. Annie Mary Hammer, of Fairford-terrace. Ethelton, died recently after a short illness. She was the eldest daughter of the late Mr. and Mrs. Thomas Rickard of Broken Hill.
Born in Cornwall, she came to Australia at the age of one year with her parents, who lived at Moonta and Kadina for some years, and subsequently when they travelled by coach to Broken Hill. In 1886 at the Bible Christian Church she married Mr. Edward Hammer. Mr. and Mrs. Hammer had the distinction of being the first couple to be married on the Barrier. For the last 15 years she resided with her family at Ethelton. She left a husband, five sons, and five daughters— Messrs. E. T. Hammer. H. F. Hammer. R. Hammer. J. H. Hammer. M. Hammer. Mesdames H. Francis, C. W. O'Neill, J. J. Baker, and Misses Clare and Mellie Hammer. There are 17 grandchildren.

The Bible Christian church was Wesleyan/Methodist.  I found a little about what may be the church where the HAMMER's were married.  As they were married in 1886 the actual building would not have been completed as Broken Hill was only established in 1885

The Wesley Church was officially opened in December 1888, just three years after the founding of
Broken Hill. The large lecture Hall opened a year later.
Designed by Frederick William Dancker of Adelaide, in a Victorian Gothic style, the Church and Hall were
built in rough hewn stone with brick trim.
The construction of the church and hall may have been associated with the large numbers of Cornish
miners attracted to the town from South Australia and other nearby mining areas.
Their significance is their association with the pioneering days of Broken Hill and the arrival of Methodism
with its strong temperance stance, and the contrast at the time with the town‟s reputation for
boisterousness, heavy drinking and militant unionism.
The Uniting Church of Australia owns the church and hall


A bit of trivia  :)–perhaps it was his son Edward who registered the motor bike.

17 Nov 1915
Motoring notes of the week…….
New motor bike registrations.
7372, Edward Hammer, Fairford terrace, Glanville, 2¾ Douglas

The Advertiser  25 Oct 1947
HAMMER  The friends of the late EDWARD HAMMER [late of Broken Hill], are respectfully informed that his Funeral will leave his late residence. No 76 Fairford terrace, Semaphore Park, on SATURDAY, at 10. 15 am for the Cheltenham Cemetery

There doesn't appear to be a headstone for them at Cheltenham.

Cheers
Cando

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Re: Hammer Family Tree
« Reply #6 on: Monday 10 December 12 12:42 GMT (UK) »
Australian Electoral Roll
NSW 1903
HAMMER Annie  Cummins Street, Broken Hill North  Domestic duties
HAMMER Edward  Cummins Street, Broken Hill North  Miner

Sands & McDougall Directory
South Australia  1934
HAMMER E  82 Fairford Street, Glanville  Boilermaker 
HAMMER Edwd  76 Fairford Street, Glanville  Boilermaker
HAMMER J H  9 Maud Street, Glanville  Labourer
HAMMER R  8 Kellett Street, Glanville  Moulder

South Australia - Commonwealth Electoral Roll 1939
HAMMER Alice Gwendoline, 3 Harris st, Exeter, home duties
HAMMER Amy Bessie, 3 Kellett st. Glanville, home duties
HAMMER Edward. 76 Fairford ter, New Glanville, boilermaker
HAMMER Edward Thomas, 82 Fairford ter, Glanville, boilermaker
HAMMER Edward Thomas, jun, 3 Harris st, Exeter, moulder
HAMMER Emma Mary, 82 Fairford ter, Glanville, home duties
HAMMER Ivy, 9 Maude st, Glanville, home duties
HAMMER John Henry, 9 Maud st, Glanville, laborer
HAMMER Margaret Jean, 23 Gordon st, Glanville Blocks, h duties
HAMMER Melville, 23 Gordon st, Glanville Blocks, laborer
HAMMER Reginald, 3 Kellett st, Glanville, laborer

Cando
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Re: Hammer Family Tree
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 11 December 12 05:26 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for that - I am waiting to hear back from the BH Library and Births Deaths and Marriages to see if they have any further info

Cheers and Merry XMAS to you all

Kathy

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Re: Hammer Family Tree
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 11 December 12 06:41 GMT (UK) »




The Hammen name is repeated -

BDM NSW    district   Broken Hill    for all births

37180/1888    HAMMEN    Edward T      parents  Edward/Mary A
8345/1890    HAMMEN    Harold Fred   parents Edward/Mary Ann
8504/1892    HAMMEN    Muriel           parents Edwin/ Mary A
8559/1894    HAMMEN    Reginald       parents  Edward/Annie
10982/1897    HAMMEN    Mable A        parents Edwin/Mary A    
10696/1899    HAMMEN    John H         parents Edward/Mary A

30366/1901    HAMMER    Clara R    parents Edward/Mary A
30839/1904    HAMMER    Emma P    parents Edward/Mary A
22271/1907    HAMMER    Melville    parents Edward/Mary A
23272/1909    HAMMER    Julia N N    parents Edward/Mary A


A NSW birth certificate should give age and birthplace of parents?


BDM NSW death
1416/1886    HAMMEN    Ann    age 53yrs died Sydney   SYDNEY