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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #54 on: Monday 04 February 19 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, but since the NSW Archives' own online index to prisoners in the Gaol Description and Entrance Books, 1818-1930 doesn't list any James Andersons born before 1841, whoever it was, it wasn't mine, because he got married in 1850.
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 05 February 19 02:18 GMT (UK) »
Found the mention of Belfast in the Darlinghurst Gaol book, 1871-1872.

No.  4668
Name James ANDERSON
Ship See No. 4499, 1850 (see below for JM note #1)
Where Born  Belfast (see below for JM note #2)
Religion Non conf (as in Non Conformist, so Protestant but not C of E)
Trade …. No entry recorded
Age  … no entry recorded
Height … no entry recorded
Mark … no entry recorded
Complexion … no entry recorded
Color of Hair … no entry recorded
Color of eyes … no entry recorded (see below for JM note #3)
Education RW  (as in Read and Write)
Remarks … no entry recorded

Note # 1
See 4499 means to go back through and find the entry numbered 4499
1850 is the year of arrival, so I went back to entry number 4499 (image 164) and found:  James Anderson,  not known, Ireland, Non conformist, 52,  RW…  so the ‘not known’ is for the ship of arrival …

Note # 2
Belfast  I carefully note that it does NOT say Belfast, Ireland.   Other entries on same page read Emu Plains NSW,  Sydney, Scotland, London, Liverpool NSW,  England, Sweden, Ireland … etc
So BELFAST may mean Belfast, Ireland, BUT in 1870s it may be pointing to Belfast, Victoria…   I am sure that Belfast in the 1870s could well refer to what is now known as Port Fairy, in Victoria,  I think it was one of the Whaling Stations in the 1870s.   BUT if we take into consideration the entry 4499 and the entry 4668, then it is referring to Belfast, Ireland.

Note # 3
And at line 4499, still no info re height, complexion, or similar , not even a trade...

I have not yet heard back from my Archivist contact, but I will post again once I have heard back.

I am doubtful that this could be the elusive Landscape Artist.   ;)  ;)  ;D

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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 05 February 19 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, JM, that is very kind of you.

The information sort of fits. Coming from Belfast (Ireland) my James Anderson is very likely to have been a presbyterian. I know that he was in Belfast on 20 September 1852 and in Melbourne in time to set up a business and advertise it on 17 June 1853, which considerably narrows down his date of arrival. Assuming that his journey took 3 months, he cannot have arrived until late December 1852, and he surely must have arrived by the end of May 1853.
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 05 February 19 10:19 GMT (UK) »
 :D :D

I will keep at this one then......  ;D   

Darlinghurst Gaol in the 1870s  ...
Landscape artist .... well the buildings ... they are  now used as a centre for the fine arts .....
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 05 February 19 14:31 GMT (UK) »
There's something odd about James Anderson's son-in-law William Richmond too. His family are in the 1901 census in Glasgow and the 1911 census in St Albans in England but he is not, even though his wife says in both that she is married, not widowed, and I can't find him anywhere. Weird.
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 05 February 19 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Just found an article in The Age of 1 September 1857, which is a report of evidence about the death, or possibly murder, of Mr MacLeod. Among other evidence was a statement by Mr MacLeod, reported by one of the witnesses, that Mr MacLeod had found his wife in bed with an artist by the name of Anderson, who had been lodging in the Southern Cross Hotel, Mr MacLeod's establishment in Beechworth, and who had 'estranged the affections of his wife'. Anderson denied it, as you would expect.

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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #60 on: Wednesday 06 February 19 22:33 GMT (UK) »
 ;D  ;D  ;D

Darlinghurst Gaol, 1870
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James ANDERSON, per Andromeda, 1852, Ireland, Protestant, Artist, aged 50,

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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 06 February 19 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Fantastic, JM. That's definitely got to be him.

Which explains why he seems to vanish from the scene in 1870. And of course raises 1001 new questions. What was he jailed for? How long was he in jail? And so on.
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 06 February 19 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Yes,  loads of questions,  and I am scant for spare moments....

Likely he would have been residing in Sydney,  so may I suggest trying the free to search City of Sydney Sands Directories ... both by surname and by occupation

https://www.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/learn/search-our-collections/sands-directory 

I have electoral rolls covering NSW in 1870, hard copy at home, and I am not at home, could be a week or so before I get home  ::)  ::)  ::)

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