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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #45 on: Wednesday 19 December 12 21:42 GMT (UK) »
It did occur to me that one explanation for there being no birth certs evident in the names of 'Elizabeth Anderson' or 'Arthur Anderson' could be that their births were registered in another name. 

But I'm sure there are also lots of other alternate explanations!

One that will have to remain a mystery perhaps. 

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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #46 on: Sunday 03 February 19 13:14 GMT (UK) »
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There is a death in 1878 in VIC of James Anderson, aged 45, born Ireland, mother Maria Robertson. 45 is a bit on the young side, but not impossible, though it would make him about 8-10 years younger than his wife.
I looked again at that death. It names his wife as Charlotte Eliza Alsop, which seems to rule him out as being the artist. They were married in VIC in 1864, which is before his wife Margaret Rowan Waddell and their daughter Elizabeth Agnes returned to the UK.

Have also been thinking about William Macleod's abusive and drunken stepfather, and wondering if it was the Mr Macleod who was murdered in 1856 who was the drunken stepfather rather than James Anderson?
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #47 on: Sunday 03 February 19 13:50 GMT (UK) »
Drat, that last theory won't wash either.

William Macleod and Julianna Mary Esner were married in Reading, Berkshire in 1848 and had two children, William, born 1850 and Charlotte Mary, born 1852, both in London Marylebone. The 1851 census lists them in London: William Macleod, 40, fruiterer and greengrocer; wife Julianna, 26, and son William F, 5 months, all born London.

Maybe it was a case of a drunken father rather than a drunken stepfather.
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #48 on: Sunday 03 February 19 20:42 GMT (UK) »
The only progress I made with this one was I found that the 1878 will of William Semple Waddell which mentions the executrix 'Mrs Margaret Waddell or Anderson, widow of James Anderson sometime artist in Melbourne thereafter in Sidney' (sic). 

This led me to look into NSW records a bit further and I found mention in the A'try dataset 'NSW Gaols 1818-1930' mention of a 'James Anderson, artist' born in Belfast who spent time in, I think, Darlinghurst gaol ... but no clear evidence as to which 'James Anderson, artist' this might have been of course.  This was a while ago and I no longer have a subscription so sorry I can't give more detail. 

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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #49 on: Sunday 03 February 19 21:19 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Gali on Sunday 03 February 19 20:42 GMT (UK)
The only progress I made with this one was I found that the 1878 will of William Semple Waddell which mentions the executrix 'Mrs Margaret Waddell or Anderson, widow of James Anderson sometime artist in Melbourne thereafter in Sidney' (sic).
Ah yes, I have that too.

William Semple Waddell died on 29 July 1877 in Auchingramont Road, Hamilton. So I speculate that Margaret was notified of the death, and that she was executrix, and she got on the next available boat home. Maybe William Richmond, who was born in Hamilton and still living there in 1871, actually went to Australia to escort her and Elizabeth Agnes home, where they moved into William's house.   

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This led me to look into NSW records a bit further and I found mention in the A'try dataset 'NSW Gaols 1818-1930' mention of a 'James Anderson, artist' born in Belfast who spent time in, I think, Darlinghurst gaol ... but no clear evidence as to which 'James Anderson, artist' this might have been of course.  This was a while ago and I no longer have a subscription so sorry I can't give more detail.
Now that is new to me! I don't have a subscription either but I should be in Aberdeen soon, and the Family History Society has a subscription so I can use that to take a look. Thanks, Gali!
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #50 on: Sunday 03 February 19 21:30 GMT (UK) »
Awwww :(

The NSW State Archives has an online index to prisoners, and the oldest James Anderson in Darlinghurst was born in 1844. There is an Irish-born one, but he was born in 1862.

There was also an Irish-born James Anderson in Maitland, but he was born in 1841 so again he's far too young.

And there are no James Andersons at all born before 1841.

Back to the drawing board.
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Re: James Anderson, Landscape Artist
« Reply #51 on: Monday 04 February 19 06:58 GMT (UK) »
I think it's A'try dataset 'NSW, Australia, Gaol Description and Entrance Books, 1818-1930' that had the information I found.  I'm not sure it's available via the NSW State Archives online search. 

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« Reply #52 on: Monday 04 February 19 07:32 GMT (UK) »
Ancestry's source is the NSW archives.  Ancestry has a commercial partnership with them at present.  Ancestry's dataset is  complied from several of the online indexes available from NSW  archives.

I will phone the Archives tomorrow to see if they can check.

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« Reply #53 on: Monday 04 February 19 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Yes, says here that the records are accessible online via A'try and via microfiche from NSW Archives ...

https://blogs.ancestry.com.au/ancestry/2010/12/13/new-south-wales-gaol-description-and-entrance-books-1818-1930/
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