Landy

[crisane]

This could be William's death. (Father of Maisie)
March 1/4 1911 West Derby 8b/346

Doesn't explain where the rest of the family are in 1911 though.

[keyboard86]

Hi I think that Bertha b c 1865 Liverpool could be a LAUDY?

Keyboard86

[Ruskie]

That is exactly what I was just going to say!  No Maisie though.

[Ruskie]

If we don't know Maisie's year of birth, and we don't know if Maisie is a nickname and her real name is Margaret or something else, and she is obviously not at home with her mother, and her surname may have been mistranscribed as Sandy/Dandy or any number of other variants/mispellings, it is quite difficult to narrow down a likely candidate in 1911 .... 

It is even a possibility that she was not born until after the 1911 census, and took her mother's married name of Landy.  Pushing it a bit with her mother's age, but stranger things have happened.  Or might she be the daughter of one of Bertha's children? 

[crisane]

In March qtr 1937 she became Maisie V L  Hagland marrying a William Bennett in Liverpool South.

I can't find her birth
Krs Cal 

Birth
Maisie V L Jenkins
June 1/4 1910 Liverpool vol 8b page 69

Marriage Maisie V L Jenkins to Leonard E Feesey Sept 1/4 1939 Wallasey 8a 2308

This Maisie's parents are Hugh Surrey Jenkins and Lucy Annie Rose
Marriage Sept 1/4 1902 Kings Norton vol 6c page 901

Ah well she looked a possibility for a while.

[Ruskie]

Oddly enough there are a couple of other births of Maisie with middle initials VL. 

[CaroleW]

From my first reply

Do you have a copy of either marriage cert showing her age and her fathers name?

When and where did she die as her death reg will give you a birthyear

We also need Cal to confirm whether the 1966 death reg is hers so we have a birthyear.

Given the various permutations for "Maisie" and no birth reg - we really need more info

[Barbara.H]

[This post crossed with Carole's last one - I agree, we need a bit more in terms of age etc]

There are two Hagland children that might be Maisie's, born with mother's surname Landy; a girl born Maidenhead, Kent in 1930 and a boy born Liverpool 1931.

Maisie clearly identifies with Bertha as her mother, but she could be adopted or as Ruskie says, Bertha's granddaughter brought up as her daughter.

I wonder about the two year old that is with the Landys in 1911;  she doesn't seem to appear again apart from a birth reg and the census entry. Could that be Maisie with a different name?

[Cal241]

Oh my thank you all so much for all of your hard work.

This side of the tree is my daughters paternal side and there is no one to ask to unravel it. I decided to pick this up as my tree has come to an almighty halt!

The only info I had on Maisie was she was a Landy, married a William  Hagland (she had 2 children with him which Barbara H has picked up), then she married a William Bennett. I knew they lived in Liverpool but didn't know if they were originally Liverpool people.

I have no idea when Maisie died but after Christmas I will send off for certificates of her marriages, the Prescot death in 1966 Carol W found and the William Landy death crisane found.

From some family gossip it was rumoured her first husband was sent down for fraud and died in jail, how true this is I have no idea. If he was in jail are death records kept somewhere else? Was also wondering did we still ship prisoners off to Australia as late as the 1930s?? This may explain why we can't find a death. 

Fabulous find Barbara with the school collapsing (how tragic was that!) but it does confirm the relationship with Maisie and Bertha C.
If Bertha C was Maisie's mum then she would have been around 47 when she had her so maybe she did bring up Maisie as her own from one of her children.. good thought there Ruskie.

I have a feeling she maybe the Margaret Landy in the 1911 census (I will invest in some credits and take a look).

I have looked back through the census reports and discovered that William Landy's father was Irish so it looks like that is where the name came from.
It is quite spooky as my McKinnelly clan came from Ireland and lived in the same  area of Liverpool ... in 1881 William's brother was noted as a ships cook... the same as one of my McKinnelly's .. maybe they actually knew each other

I can't thank you all enough ... great detective work every one it has got me going. I have found that Bertha Catherine Landy is buried in Toxeth Park Cemetery (which is where my McKinnelly's are too) so I will pop along and visit her soon.

Cal