charles stavely canada 1896

[anneelaine]

Thanks for that  will do
 Going today to see if i can find out who was based at the Dale from 197/1918

[lilybell]

Good morning anneelaine,

Good luck with the museum.
As to the uniform I would bet my last dollar that it is a british uniform 5 buttons.

Family stories can get so embellished as they get passed down. Sometimes the final result

is only partially the truth.....  am keeping my eyes on your search... hope it turns out to be fruitful.


Cheers
Lilybell

[JaneyCanuck]

A family story about his personality might add flavour to your family history but means nothing in tracing facts and generalizations about professions and attitudes going hand in hand tends to muddy the waters of fact finding.  This is my opinion not meant to start an argument on this thread.

Perhaps someone thought I was suggesting that anneelaine go looking for "a family story about his personality"...

Quite obviously, I have been suggesting that anneelaine look for family members who know, in particular, the military record of their own Mr. Staveley and his whereabouts during the period in question (around April 1917, and before and after) -- so that it can be investigated to see whether it matches what anneelaine's family knows about their Mr. Staveley.

I have provided anneelaine privately with very specific information about family members of Charles Staveley born in December 1896 (birth reg early 1897) in Bridlington reg dist in Yorkshire, the one who seems to best match her own family's information/stories, at least according to the consensus in this thread.

It is quite possible that the family of "the real Mr. Staveley" might have the exact same photograph in their possession -- or at least a photograph that could be compared for likeness. That would be the very best proof of identity, I would think.

[polarbear]

Have had a close look at my own rellie in his CEF (Canada) uniform and there appear to be several distinct differences between it and the 'Charles' uniform.

My CEF uniform appears to have buttons that were all the same size; there appears to be a lack of a rifle patch above the upper pocket which appears to be something British uniforms had; Canadian forces generally had collar insignia identifying their units and often in the shape of a maple leaf; shoulder insignia seem to generally say Canada on them along with, perhaps, their unit.
 
You can google around the internet to find general examples and descriptions of the uniforms of both forces.

I too agree that the identification of the country of the 'Charles' uniform should be a top priority.

PB

[JaneyCanuck]

I agreed a long time ago (see the picture I linked to, of a "Tommy tunic") that the uniform looks British -- particularly, as I noted, because of the shoulder patch and adjacent stitching, which do not appear on Cdn uniforms.

Hopefully, a straightforward way of confirming this can be found.

[lilybell]

Ladies let us hope the Museum will be able to shed some accurate light on Charles picture.

I would think they would be the best place to start. We have a Military  Museum not too far from where I live

and they are very knowledgeable in these matters. We also have a library  archivist who  is most helpful.

Fingers crossed anneelaine receives some good  news.


Lilybell

[anneelaine]

Thanks everyone will let you know how I get on.
I have not heard from any off them yet.
A

[anneelaine]

Hello I am back again with Charles Staveley .
Had confirmation back that the 2 photo's and letters i sent to the family's in Yorkshire were not my Charles Staveley, I was so sure one of them would be the right family
So i am at it again .
Anneelaine

[anneelaine]

I have just found this i know he is call John but i know my mum said he did not like his name Just a thought   STAVELEY   John    Adult   M   1919   Liverpool   Canada   Halifax.
     My mum always called him Charles ( my mum told us that she was told from her mother that his name was not suitable for him I think he was a bit of a snob
 Charles staveley  photo is signed Chas Staveley.
   
Anneelaine