charles stavely canada 1896

[anneelaine]

Hello Just been looking again found a Charles Staveley on a forces war records  page its says he was a serjeant?do not know what this is
He was in the Green Howard's? i cannot get anymore on this
The guy on the rootschat army said it look like he was in the Green Howards.
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[JaneyCanuck]

lilybell -- to delete something in a message, just click the "modify" button in the upper right of the message, make the changes you want, and click "save".

The thing is, anneelaine doesn't know any more than we do what was true and what wasn't! 

I haven't looked at the military aspect thread, but I guess I'll leave it all for now.

I was just wondering whether anneelaine and I are cousins -- did you see the SANKEY in my signature line, anneelaine??

But I traced her Margaret Ann Sankey back to her father who was born in Lancashire, and it seems there is a crowd of them there going back to the 1200s. Mine were in Kent in the 1600s, and may have come from Ireland ... but perhaps our greatx15 grandfathers were cousins.

[valeriec]

I think that everyone here has done a lot of work on behalf of Anneelaine and I would like to commend everyone on their efforts. If we have been able to help her rule out a Charles in Canada and find another in England I think that is great. When we all started this search it was on very little information that was given and through the hard work of all the researchers on this thread I think we have helped her to hopefully be closer to finding her Charles Stavely. We research using the information that is given and post what we find. Sometimes the information given is factual and sometimes it is proven false. That is all part of the research process. We all put in a lot of hours researching on this forum and I believe the purpose of this forum is for all of us to work together and share our resources to help the poster find information. I think that the information about the signature in the last post from lilybell confirms that she has found the correct Charles. Great work lilybell. I love the fact that all the information was posted on this one thread rather than having to go back and forth through various threads. I am hopeful that some really good researcher with knowledge of Great Britain will continue to help Anneelaine and bring her closer to finding some living relatives.

Good luck with your continued research.
Val

[lilybell]

Well said valeriec. I for one have found this a great chance to prove what myself and all others posters can do when we all pull together.


Lilybell

[anneelaine]

No words can say how much this means to me
I would just like to say Thank you to you all
Anneelaine

[JaneyCanuck]

What I had meant to say, from tracing the family back:


Annie Jones, Gladys's mother, born c1894 in Newton le Willows, Lancashire, grew up in Chester.

The family is in Chester in 1901, and Annie's widowed mother Margaret Ann (Sankey) Jones is there in 1911 -- Annie is a nursemaid in North Manchester.

The birth of Gladys E Jones was registered in Chester in March quarter 1918.

So the Dale military base does make sense, if that helps anyone checking the military aspect.

And the time of the birth (late 1917/early 1918) may help for that purpose as well.
(anneelaine -- it would help if you would confirm the date of birth, maybe)


I am going to send anneelaine some info privately for contacting descendants of the Yorkshire Charles when the time seems right, if and when that is the case.

[anneelaine]

Hi
Gladys was born Jan 1918 so i will try and take a look at the dale for early 1917
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[J.J.]

Great that the right person was found!
Lillybell found a great deal and yet was admonished by Janey who herself made huge confusing posts...and who by saying she'd proven us wrong made this into a giant novel...which I don't think the family of the Canadian fellow ever needs to read...

[JaneyCanuck]

Hi
Gladys was born Jan 1918 so i will try and take a look at the dale for early 1917
A

That birthdate matches the registration, so Chester it was.


I have sent you information about this Charles's descendants and living family members and contact information for one of his great-grandchildren. There is a possibility that one of his children is living.


JJ, if you have something to say to me, that's what the private message system is for.

If you have something to say about me, I suggest you say it to someone interested by private message as well.

I have been in contact with anneelaine privately throughout this, and if she had some problem with what I was doing -- she being the person who matters -- I assume she would have said so.

I DID NOT SAY I HAD PROVED ANYONE WRONG. Your assertion that I did is false (care to quote me?) and extraordinarily offensive. (At one point, following the "violin maker" trail, I did find two probably interrelated families engaged in the musical instruments trade / music profession, one of the multiple stories that needed checking, and joked about how I was liking them -- lighten up.)

We were set off on the Canada connection route by the information provided, and I followed that path.

The only way to find a person is to identify all possibilities and systematically rule each one IN or OUT.

It now seems that virtually all the information anneelaine's mother was given
- Charles from/to Canada
- Charles a violin maker
was false; there was no reason, at the outset, to think that the age/DOB she was told for him was any more true than the other tales. ALL information "known" about a person has to be investigated, and in this case that meant taking a sceptical approach to the Canada story, the violin story, AND the age story.


"which I don't think the family of the Canadian fellow ever needs to read... "
... and the family of the Yorkshire fellow??

(I will actually delete some of what I have said here in that regard, after a while, for that reason -- in fact, once anneelaine has copied all of what is here, she should maybe request that the thread itself be deleted, in view of the subject matter and the fact that there are many living family members of the person now generally agreed to be the person concerned.)


I have been doing this a long time and with great success for many appreciative people, and I do not need to be moralized at by you or anyone.

Thank you.