charles stavely canada 1896

[J.J.]

Yes, you are correct Lisa...There is no "without a doubt" proof at all that this is the correct person...


 

[J.J.]

I see that Stavely births are accounted for...and Gladys's birth was not as Stavely then?
Using find on page I see this was noted by Janey. I guess it must have been sent by p.m.

The youthful look of young Charles in the army photo does make me wonder if he's the right man, but if he was in the reserves earlier in life, maybe that was an earlier photo.  So many ifs

Did anyone answer the question asked by Lisa ...was there a military base near her home?

[lilybell]

I do not know if there was a military base in Manchester area but there was a  Military Hospital

known as 2nd Western General Hospital . Perhaps the mother worked there.Just a thought .


Lilybell

[JaneyCanuck]

anneelaine -- do you know:

- exactly where Annie and her mother were living when Gladys was born?

- where the mother & baby home where Gladys was born was?

(Her birth would have been registered where the home was, not where her mother had lived before.)


She was registered as Gladys Jones, I am assuming, but you would not believe how many of them were registered in 1918 (or early 1919)!

The only Gladys Jones with mother named Jones, born in Lancashire, was registered in Prestwich district, sometime in April-May-June 1918.

I gather that covers parts of Manchester, so is that her?



As far as certainty -- this is why anneelaine needs to find family in Canada and hope they can tell her something about their father or grandfather or uncle, Charles Staveley.

[lilybell]

Hello anneelaine,

Sorry to lay some more questions on you....your head must be spinning with all the information posted.

May I ask you if you know how Annie met Charles. I am wondering if she was a VAD( Voluntary Aid Detachment)

during WW! part of the Red Cross. She would have been about the right age. Many of them worked in convalescent

homes,military hospitals,nursing assistants,cooks, ambulance drivers, etc. I know there was a military hospital the

2nd Western General Hospital in Manchester do not know if it was close to where she lived although that would not

necessarily matter.

We all have so many questions to ask you.. I would like to see you get the answers you are seeking.

My grandmother was born and raised in Essex and I still do not know anything much about her life in England before

coming to Canada in 1914. Still searching!!!!


Take care

Lilybell

[JaneyCanuck]

lilybell, I'm afraid that you will - literally - make anneelaine's head spin! Her reading/vision problem does just that.

I'm very sure she really has no idea how Charles and Annie, Gladys's parents met. I'm pretty sure that at this point she has told us everything she knows -- unless she can tell us exactly where Gladys's mother Annie and her mother were living at the time.

Gladys herself grew up with her grandmother, not her mother, apparently, and only found out who her parents were when she came of age.

We should keep in mind that Charles himself was from Burnley, just a few miles north of Manchester, and even closer to Prestwich which is on the northern outskirts of Manchester (if my guess is right about where Gladys was born).

There were Staveleys in Manchester at the time. He could have been stationed anywhere, and just in the area visiting family while on leave.

I would focus on locating close family in Canada, at this point, to see whether there is anyone who has actual memory of the Charles there.

It may be that the person who posted at Genforum and the person who owns the Staveley genealogy website (who could be the same person) would have some leads for that -- or there are the addresses in the phone book.

The problem is that there was a separate lot of Staveleys in Quebec, from Leicestershire, who were there much earlier -- around 1840 it seems -- and it's just as likely that any Staveleys in Quebec today are theirs:
http://www.staveley-genealogy.com/quebec.htm

Also, in the 1970s, there was an exodus of young English speakers from Quebec, so recent generations could be anywhere (mot likely Ontario or the West). And there were earlier Staveleys also in Saskatchewan and British Columbia  ...

All that could be done is to contact Staveleys and ask whether they are descended from the family who arrived in 1912, or know anyone who is.

[lilybell]

JaneyCanuck

It was never my intention to make anyones head spin but I know mine would be after all that has been posted.  Sometimes Just  the smallest thing can trigger

ones memory.

 
I'm  not totally sure that we have found Charles and we may never know for sure.I have searched high and low and just feel we are missing something.

That is my feeling and mine alone.

I believe the person for the Genforum and the person with the Staveley genealogy website could be the same person.Try contacting them would be my answer.



Lilybell

[anneelaine]

Hello everyone.
Gladys Jones was born in Manchester will try and put my mums full BC together this weekend we found it in bits but i can see were it say father is just a line
Gladys and her mother  came from Chester 45 miles from Manchester  but Chester is a army town
 Gladys grandfarther and grandmother were from Manchester .
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[anneelaine]

The date off the charles photo was 1917/1918 i  a new year gift for  gladys granmother the name on the photo look like london .
going to  try and see what the rest says on photo.
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