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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 04:06 GMT (UK) »
The one sibling of Charles who remained behind in England was Ann Jane, who married in Burnley in 1908.

She married Harry Spencer and had son Jack in 1910.

But they didn't have more kids after that ... so maybe she emigrated with the Staveleys ...




valeriec -- I just doubt that someone who was a cotton mill worker in England, from a family who were weavers in England and Quebec, would have been a violin maker before or after WWI in Canada!
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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 04:28 GMT (UK) »
There is an entry for a Florence Staveley, age 32, previous occupation was winder, travelling aboard the Megantic arriving May 1913.  She is destined to Montreal to join her husband.

This could possibly be Charles's wife joining him in Canada.

A search of canada411 for the surname Staveley returns 8 entries in Quebec.

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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 04:46 GMT (UK) »
Aha, so Florence did come too. I wonder whether she died before or during the war -- or they just parted ways? For Charles to want to take Annie Jones back to Canada ...

Definitely her. Occupation in 1911 was winder.
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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 05:02 GMT (UK) »
It's entirely possible that Charles and Florence remained together. 

There is an entry on the Canada Voters List in 1957 for a Charles Staveley (retired) and Florence Staveley residing at 201 Metcalfe, Joliette-L'Assomption-Montcalm district in Quebec.

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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 05:44 GMT (UK) »
In Montreal area in the 1920's, there were several workshops and apprentices to learn violin making. I haven't read all the way through the information on violin makers (luthiers) but it is quite interesting. He may not have been a prominent violin maker but could have worked in the trade.

So much for going to bed.

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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #68 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 06:30 GMT (UK) »
www.staveley-genealogy.com/canada.htm

www.canada411.ca

I have modified this post to take out reference to individuals. I am leaving the websites in case they are required in future.


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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 06:53 GMT (UK) »
Entries on Voters Lists

1945 - Charles Staveley, boilermaker and Mrs. Charles, 600 Fortune, Ste-Anne District, Quebec
1949 - Charles Staveley, boilermaker and Mrs. C., housewife, 600 Fortune, Ste-Anne District, Quebec
1957 - information in reply #66
1962 - Charles Stavely, retired, Metcalfe, Joliette; L'Assomption; Montcalm, Québec
1963 - Charles Stavely, retired, Metcalf, Joliette; L'Assomption; Montcalm, Québec
1965 - C. Staveley, retired, Metcalfe, Joliette; L'Assomption; Montcalm, Québec

Possibly wife Florence passed away between 1957 and 1962.

There may be more entries but these are all I can find.  There are many transcription errors in the Voters Lists.

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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 14:19 GMT (UK) »
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Re: charles stavely canada 1896
« Reply #71 on: Wednesday 05 December 12 15:37 GMT (UK) »
I haven't followed the thread closely enough to determine if the correct man was found.

My family made a mistake many years ago when we thought we had found my mum's ancestor (who had an uncommon surname).  Our ancestor and another man had the exact name, same family names handed down, born approximately the same time in approximately the same place, and left Ireland at the same time (before 1840).  Our ancestor and other other man's family even settled in Ontario, Canada around the same time.  There were a couple of other unusual similarities.

Our ancestor and this man were not the same person.  While we do believe our ancestor was the cousin or nephew of this man, we have never been able to prove it.  I now am leery of accepting facts.

But, having not read all of the great details uncovered about Charles, perhaps it is without a doubt the correct person.
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