charles stavely canada 1896

[JaneyCanuck]

familysearch has this record I'd also been looking at yesterday:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/KC7L-DMW

Charles Staveley, dob 1897, Yorkshire

Merchant Navy Records 1921-1941 -- but we don't know the exact dates he was in the merchant navy, I think. That could mean that he began in 1921. The records end at 1941.

[JaneyCanuck]

of the two children

- the son appears to have been on the electoral roll until 2004 -- very unfortunately, he likely died after 2005 (the last year we can check the index) -- he married in 1951 and probably had two children

- the daughter married in 1962 and probably had three children

Will look for more details (that could be provided privately) after I do some things I have to do!

IF that was the correct Charles Staveley, those two children are/were Gladys's half-siblings.
And their children are anneelaine's half-cousins.

[lilybell]

On A***ry

Another marriage for a C Staveley m H M Berryman July/Aug/Sept 1955 Scarborough Yorkshire North Riding

Could have been widowed and remarried...just a thought


Lilybell

[JaneyCanuck]

lilybell -- there are likely births to that marriage in the 1950s (the bride was born in the 1930s) so I doubt it is our Charles, and as the parties are very possibly living, I'd delete that info.

- edit - the parties ARE living (2012 electoral roll) and really would not be our couple, and the info really should be deleted.

[J.J.]

Let's let the people looking into the army connection finish their work so we don't go chasing red herrings.
The army uniform was the only good solid lead...and it needs to be sorted out for some truths.

[JaneyCanuck]

I don't really understand why you would do that ... there is no personal information there about anyone now living or likely even any parent of anyone now living.

The easy way to save all the info in a thread is to click the "print" button in the upper right of the thread and that will show the whole thing.

I don't see us having proof positive of who Charles was, as yet.

The Yorkshire one has no apparent connection to Canada, and not a batman -- or a violin maker! so yes, all of that info could have been false. But we don't know.


I don't really know what you mean by red herrings (although I agree that the second marriage suggested is one, and I am hoping that info will be deleted).

If my reference to the marriage and children of the Yorkshire Charles Staveley is a red herring, it would only be because that Charles Staveley is a red herring himself!

The only way that anneelaine is going to be *sure* of who her Charles was is to find a living relation who knows the story of their Charles and then be able to match it to the story of hers.

[J.J.]

Hi guys...
I was ever so happy to work with some of the Canadian rootschatters when I had a spare bit of time.... Especially those of you who really care, find a thread and dig in...
I do have to say that someone like valerie probably should have taken the helm on this one...as we needed to dig into the military aspect... That's why I asked her and polarbear to join in.


 

[JaneyCanuck]

I wonder what that means ...


As to the army uniform being the only good solid lead -- as I understand it, *both* the Charles Staveley who went to Canada and the Charles Staveley from Yorkshire were in the UK military during WWI, so I don't know how associating one of them with the uniform would rule the other out ...


If it is generally accepted now that the Yorkshire CS is the man, and I'm not disagreeing that he probably is, what is it that is needed on "the military aspect" now?


I just wasn't aware that anybody "took the helm" when someone posts at this site. Is there an election process?

[lilybell]

Sorry for the second marriage posting....have been  out most of the day.

How does one go about deleting something posted...any help welcome.

The WW1 attestation papers for Charles that I sent on to anneelaine are most certainly the right Charles.

She has stated the signature matches that on the back of her photo . I consider that concrete proof.

Because Charles was in the Territorial Force not sure how one finds out more on him. His attestation papers are damaged

part of Burnt Papers. Not sure if his file is complete.Perhaps she should consider posting on the Military Board for WW1.

There are a lot of people out there very know ledgable on military matter...probably much more than us.

Further to Charles being in Canada from the passenger list I posted earlier not sure if that is him because the age is  out

by 8 years. Anneelaine has indicated the story about Charles being from Canada was untrue

Are we not all here to try and help  anneelaine find her family...enough squabbling ladies.


Lilybell