Help needed where to loo

[Wattsy]

Hi everyone

I have come across a brick wall and don`t know where to start looking.

I have for many years been unable to find the name of the father of Hessie Potts b 1891/2.  Recently Find My Past has made available old newspapers and found a reference to a trial in the Nisi Prius Court in Liverpool.  Although they mention the fathers surname his christian name is not recorded in the newspaper article.

Does anyone know if or where is would be possible to get a copy of the full Court hearing in order to identify the fathers full name?

Any help would be appreciated.
Kind regards

Wattsy

[davidft]

Ancestry has England & Wales, Criminal Registers, 1791-1892 so there is a chance he has just scraped in there.

Are you a member of Ancestry ?

[carol8353]

Is she the one born in Hayfield Derbyshire and married there in 1920 to a George Mammatt?

I see that in 1901 she is with her grandparents Alfred and Hananh Potts.

The marriage or birth cert will tell you her fathers name( unless she was born to a single unm mum with the Potts surname) or you can follow this family back through the censuses and see which male is missing by 1901.

ADDED- I've just looked at the family o each census and wonder if she is the daughter of unmarried mum Matilda who then went on to marry Algernon Furniss at All Saints Marple Cheshire in 1900

[Wattsy]

Thanks for quick replies.
I am a member of Ancestry and I will re check.
Unfortunately the BC does not give a fathers name. The mother of Hessie is Clara Potts who married George Mammatt and emigrated to Australia.  Hessie never gave any info about her father and as a result I wonder if she ever knew.
The newspapers reports father as being Jowett and damages were £1,100 fairly substantial for that time.
So, just wondered if court cases for Liverpool were available.

Wattsy

[carol8353]

If you already have the birth cert and it doesn't mention a father,then I doubt you'll ever find who he was. Clara Potts obviously didn'twant anyone to know.

Sometimes you get a clue as to the father by a middle name the child is given,but not in this case.

[Wattsy]

Hi

Yes I agree I never expected to know his name BUT there was obviously a court case regarding the "seduction" of his daughter Clara in Liverpool in 1892.

  Hence my query where or how I could find the Court records.  All I know is that they were held in Nisi Prius Court Liverpool and recorded in Liverpool and Manchester Newspapers on 13th Dec 1892.

Cheers

Wattsy

[carol8353]

The records mentioned earlier only seem to go up to the early part of 1892.
Perhaps they'll transcribe more up to date ones soon- you can but hope.

The "Seduction" of Clara- wow that sounds like a book title 

Maybe Liverpool Record Office can help?

Carol

[carol8353]

He must have been a man of considerable means to have afforded to pay out £1000 back then?

There's a family of Jowett's in Mellor Derbyshire in 1891 who are cotton manufacturers.

Hmmm?

[avm228]

Some such records seem to be in the National Archives.

www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/Catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=16&CATLN=1&accessmethod=5&j=1

However the description is a little confusing as to whether all nisi prius records are there and whether they include your dates.

Let us know if you find the culprit Not just seduction but breach of promise of marriage, according to the 15 Dec 1892 reports.