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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1161 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 07:21 BST (UK) »
None of William and Margaret's children were called William: Robert was called after Margaret's father, James after Margaret's brother or William's father?, Christian after Margaret's mother, Saltoun after ??, Margaret after her mother and Catherine maybe after Margaret's older sister.  Was there a William brother of Alexander born earlier?
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You would have expected a son named William, wouldn't you?  One who died young, perhaps?  Although in that case, I suppose he'd be buried with the others in Nigg. 

We don't know whether any of the girls are named after WMM's mother, either.

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1162 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 07:29 BST (UK) »

I have hunted all month for Claude - this is the closest I can get and it seems so blah and futile -  all I can think of is -  Plymouth is a seaport - who Lily is -  I can't fathom - !! I don't even know if CC is male or female....!


I'm afraid Claude is looking like a lost cause, but thanks for trying!  Either he died, and the death hasn't been transcribed yet, or he emigrated without trace - surely we'd have found him in 1901 by now if he was still in England?

On second thoughts, there are enough freak transcriptions for him still to be hiding...  Just off to try Gland Kobertsou....

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1163 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 09:00 BST (UK) »



I have hunted all month for Claude - this is the closest I can get and it seems so blah and futile -  all I can think of is -  Plymouth is a seaport - who Lily is -  I can't fathom - !! I don't even know if CC is male or female....!

1901  Plymouth Devon

Elizabeth Jordan 184 South Tawton, Devon, England Head Plymouth Devon
Thomas M Jordan 1872 Plymouth, Devon, England Son Plymouth  Devon
Agnes Madder  1838 South Tawton, Devon, England Sister Plymouth  Devon
C C Robertson  1866 London, Middlesex, England Boarder Plymouth  Devon
Lily C Robertson 1878 Plymouth, Devon, England Boarder Plymouth  Devon


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Well, I like the look of this as the best match we've had yet for Claude.  Wonder if the middle 'C' initial is a clue?

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1164 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 09:33 BST (UK) »
Well, this looks like Lily in 1881 - is Charles Clifton the same person as CC Robertson?

5 Victoria St, Plymouth

William Robertson  56  London  Head      Family Hotel Keeper
Emma Robertson  38  London St Martins  Wife     
Charles Clifton  15  Middlesex Son      Telegraph Messenger
Arthur Douglas  6  Exmouth, Devon Son 
Lily Robertson   4  Plymouth, Devon Daughter 
Walter W. Robertson  1  Plymouth, Devon Son

RG11/2194  - Folio 48 - Pg 48

To answer my own question - here's the family in 1891, although Lily's age is given as 41 instead of 14!

48 Shaftsbury Cotts, Charles, Plymouth

Robertson, William M   66  City Road, London  Head 
Robertson, Emma M   46  St Martins, London Wife
Robertson, Charles C   25  Soho Sq, London Son     PO Letter Carrier
Robertson, Lily C   41  Plymouth, Devon Daughter
Robertson, Walter W   11  Plymouth, Devon  Son

RG12/1727 - Folio 92 - Pg 93

So it's not Claude, alas.

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1165 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 09:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks MR - the illusion was short-lived! :)

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1166 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 14:31 BST (UK) »
OK Forgive me if this has already been posted or if it is totally irrelevant but clutching at straws.

From the Charterhouse Register Vol 1 1872-1910 Oration Quarter 1883

Robertson, Claude William. b 10 Sept., 1869: 3 s of Charles
Robertson, of Godalming, Fellow of the Royal Water Colour
Society; (Pageites); Shooting VIII, 1885, '86, '87 Capt., '87;
Left C.Q. 1887. - Joined R.M.L.I., 1889; served with Benin Ex-
peditionary force, * 1889; Capt., 1898; volunteered from H.M.S.
Katoomba for the S. African War, 1899; Adjutant of New South
Wales Bushmen.
Killed in action at Magatie's Pass, 22 July, 1900.

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1167 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 14:42 BST (UK) »
Yes, this is Claude William, son of Charles the artist and Alice Lonsdale, who have cropped up before.  So far no one has been able to link the artist's family to Allan & Co.  (Charles and Alice are contemporary with Charles McRae Robertson and Alice Johnson, which is why we keep falling over them.)

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« Reply #1168 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 16:49 BST (UK) »


Talk about getting above our station - but this would be the BOMB!!!!

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« Reply #1169 on: Tuesday 28 June 05 17:08 BST (UK) »



Just in case anybody ever reads this -  that's connected to the family - you can have a DNA test done to see if you are related to President Grant !  8)

http://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.asp?code=J53444&special=true

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