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Paul E

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1089 on: Tuesday 21 June 05 22:09 BST (UK) »
Hi All

Feel like I'm tied up in knots here - bet we're all feeling the same! :)

Anyway, I found this link  while Googling for I can't remember what now:

http://www.mlfhs.org.uk/AngloScots/R.pdf

Forgive me if you've already seen it, but it seems to list a lot of Anglo Scots Robertson marriages - including Hugh Robertson and Elizabeth Woods.

I just haven't the mental capacity to see which of the names fit into our story - there are certainly Caldwells there (which I dimly remember we've mentioned!).

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« Reply #1090 on: Tuesday 21 June 05 22:53 BST (UK) »

Just the Robertson/McIver/Boyd connection to solve now......although MR will probably sort that one for us  :)

Catherine

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

I'll have another go at them in the morning - unless our US/Canadian/Ozzie/NZ friends get there first....

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1091 on: Tuesday 21 June 05 22:56 BST (UK) »
I'm 'plum tuckered out' too, MR - Goodnight!

Paul

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« Reply #1092 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 01:06 BST (UK) »

I'm pretty sure this is connected! - Elizabeth Godolphin is named in the web site below....plus some other names seem to work::P

Williams father - James Burslem
Williams mother - Elizabeth Godolphin
Anns father -  William Burslem,
Anns mother - Mary Curzon m.  1753 

Ann Burslem b 1763 Packington Stafford  England
Thomas Molison MD d.28 Nov 1835 Edinburgh 
m. 30 Oct 1786 Brechin Angus

children   

John Molison -  Male Christening 13 Oct 1787 Brechin Angus Scotland
Ann Molison - Female Christening 24 Feb 1789 Brechin Angus Scotland
Christina Fergusia Molison -  Female Christening 19 Mar 1792 Brechin Angus Scotland
Mary Curson Molison -  Female Christening 19 Mar 1794 Brechin Angus Scotland
Thomas Molison -  Male Christening 30 Oct 1796 Brechin Angus Scotland


I was Googling for Hamiltons and came up with this  ::) ::) ::)

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~ancestorsofcedric/family/index.htm

Looked very interesting to me!!


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« Reply #1093 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 01:35 BST (UK) »
Hi All!
I have only just started to read, all of your work, wow, I have only read the last 2 pages and I am exhausted.
If you need to know anything about, the gilmours and polloks, I have researched for 2 yrs, a parallel family of polloks in eaglesham, renfrew, and had to search the "rich" ones as well.
but I haven't got back past the 1770s .
The hamiltons owned most of the lands there and the gilmours bought it when the hamiltons went a little broke after pursuing a very expensive venture, that failed.

the "poor" polloks, I really were researching were all farmers of quality, and they produced the great Scottish poet Robert Pollok , who died at the age of 27, having achieved great heights.

The Molisons, I researched for only 3 hours, is only a dim memory, I am afraid.  I will try and see if I can find where it is in all your postings, before, I make any comment.

But I did love the pollok/ Gilmour family, I will post a poem if you like. about the fight they had. and it was the "poor" Pollok that wrote it in the mid 1800s,[ not the famous robert, but a cousin].

one gilmour gave up and sold up and moved to Ireland. others stayed in Canada. One being the richest, in a particular state over there.
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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #1095 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 02:06 BST (UK) »
This is the poem written mid 1800s, by Andrew Pollok, telling the story about the rich Polloks/ Gilmours from renfrew and Glasgow. Hope you all enjoy. ;D
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« Reply #1096 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 06:36 BST (UK) »
That's great, kenjo!  Love the term 'smicky codger'! :)
(Altavista currently don't offer Scots - Engish translations so a lot of it went over my head :))

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« Reply #1097 on: Wednesday 22 June 05 07:23 BST (UK) »
Are the polloks, really part of this, I do have certs, that cover a couple of the rich ones,  in eaglesham, this is right next to mearns, they all used to walk, to school, across the fields.
the poem covers, the parting of the Gilmours, and Polloks over the Allan Gilmour  feeling ,the polloks had, built a mansion,at Broom, out of business funds, and not, shared, the ownership. They were the best of friends, they would live with each other in the early years, after one of their many voyages, one would return to live with the other.
Then the Polloks secretly built this mansion, and they fell out.So the property had to be valued, and worked out who did actually own it. that was what the poem was about. a tongue in cheek view from the locals.
I still haven't worked out which families really count, here.
I have stuff on the Hamiltons, not much but, I feel from the little I read, in the last postings you know more than I!.
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kenjo
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