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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #945 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 09:48 BST (UK) »
Pam,

1861 Christian Mollison is a lodger in the house of a carpenter and his wife, Kensington St Mary Abbott

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Catherine
(just noticed condition is down as unmarried too?!)

Based on her age in 1861, the only possibility on the IGI is Christian Mollison (double ll), dau of Patrick Mollison and Jean Doig, b. 23 May 1784, Campbeltown, Argyll.  If it's this lady, then she probably isn't connected to "our" Molisons.  But let's keep an eye on her in case she fits in later!

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #946 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 10:08 BST (UK) »
Did we have Sir Archibald Orr Ewing remarrying?? I've come across a webpage that says he married a Mabel Addington in Oct, 1879

http://www.pellew.com/Family%20Tree/Family%20Tree.htm

I think this is the marriage recorded on Free BMD for Dec 1879 that you mentioned earlier - there were 2 husbands and only one wife, so Mabel wasn't actually listed.

Here they are on the 1881 census:

South Cliff, Holdenhurst, Hampshire

Archibald E O Ewing  Head  28  (??)Late  b. Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mabel Ewing  Wife  22  b. Devon
Norman A Ewing  5m (or 5wks?)  b. Argyll
(Plus 2 servants.)

RG11/1195 - Folio 61 - pg 60

And in 1891:

Park View House, W Chester Rd, Towcester

A E Orr Ewing  Head  38  East India Merchant  b. Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Mabel Ewing  Wife  37  b. Up Otley, Honiton, Devon
Norman A Ewing  Son  10  b. Argyllshire, Scotland
Violet E Ewing  Dau  9  b. Dumbartonshire, Scotland
Earnest P Ewing  Son  8  b. Ayrshire, Scotland
Mabel U Ewing  Dau  3  b. Perthshire, Scotland
Alice M Addington  Sis-in-law  41  b. Up Otley, Honiton, Devon
(Not to mention a governess and 9 servants - business was obviously doing well!)

RG12/1188 - Folio 138 - Pg 15

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #947 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 11:21 BST (UK) »
Did we already have this family? I think its Thomas Muir's brother (so James Muir's uncle)

1861 2 West Terrace, Whitby RG9/3648 Folio 112 Page 29

John Robinson Muir 53 (cant make out occupation, "But......" something....) Whitby
Margaret Muir 48  Whitby
George Young Muir 13 Whitby
James William C........ Muir 5 Whitby
Margaret Kidson 12 Glasgow
William Henry Kidson 10 Whitby?

(ps. what page is the summary of census entries already posted so I dont have to rely on my terrible memory  :) looked on the summaries page and couldnt find any mention of the above)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #948 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 11:24 BST (UK) »

On 25/07/1898 James Alexander Orr Ewing married Lady Margaret Frances Susan Innes Ker, daughter of Anne Elizabeth Spencer Churchill (daughter of the 7th Duke of Marlborough) and James Henry Robert Innes Ker (7th Duke of Roxburgh)

James A Orr Ewing was KIA'd 28/05/1900


I think James Alexander is another son of Sir Archibald and Elizabeth Reid, although he's not listed in the IGI.  On the 1871 census, James A O Ewing (b. Scotland c1857) and John O Ewing (b. Scotland c1859) are pupils at a school in Hampshire - this fits with John Orr Ewing, a son of Sir A we already had.

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #949 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 11:30 BST (UK) »
Did we already have this family? I think its Thomas Muir's brother (so James Muir's uncle)

1861 2 West Terrace, Whitby RG9/3648 Folio 112 Page 29

John Robinson Muir 53 (cant make out occupation, "But......" something....) Whitby
Margaret Muir 48  Whitby
George Young Muir 13 Whitby
James William C........ Muir 5 Whitby
Margaret Kidson 12 Glasgow
William Henry Kidson 10 Whitby?

(ps. what page is the summary of census entries already posted so I dont have to rely on my terrible memory  :) looked on the summaries page and couldnt find any mention of the above)

More about these Muirs on p.58 of thread - found them AFTER I did the Muir summary and haven't updated yet. (Sorry!)

Will update Robertson/Molison/Muir summaries sometime today.

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #950 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 11:37 BST (UK) »
Did we already have this family? I think its Thomas Muir's brother (so James Muir's uncle)

1861 2 West Terrace, Whitby RG9/3648 Folio 112 Page 29

John Robinson Muir 53 (cant make out occupation, "But......" something....) Whitby


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Just to show that we're awake in the back row here  :), I think its Butcher.

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #951 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 11:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks Paul, the enumerator for that census writes worse than my little boy!!  :)

and thanks Rambler, my memory is like a sieve!!!  :)

Re: James Alexander Orr Ewing, thought it must be son of Archibald, but missed him at the school u mentioned (wonder if our Allan knew his wifes cousins were marrying so highly!)

Cat  :)
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #952 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 12:03 BST (UK) »
We had John Orr Ewing and family on the 1891 census earlier - here they are in 1901:

29 Brunswick Sq, Hove

John O Ewing  Head  42  Capt in His M Army  b. Scotland
Ellen O Ewing  Wife  41  b. London
Gwendoline Ewing  Dau  14  b. Ireland
Olive O Ewing  Dau  13  b. Ireland
Jean O Ewing  Dau  3  b. Oxford
(Governess and 11 servants)

RG13/935 - Folio 22 - Pg 35

I don't think we've found a marriage for John and Ellen yet?

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ANT: Nesbit, Potts; CHS: Gosling (Hazel Grove/Lymm), Hinton (Lymm), Johnson (Hazel Grove), Marsland (Hazel Grove), Massey (Daresbury), Sorton (Warmingham); LAN: Jackson, James, Potts (Manchester/Salford); MAY: Caulfield, Griffin (Leveelick); SAL: Goodwin, Johnson (Bridgnorth), Gregory (Wellington); STS: Goodwin, Gregory, Johnson (Wolverhampton); Hallett (Trysull); SOM: Dowding, James, Jones (Bath)

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #953 on: Tuesday 14 June 05 12:38 BST (UK) »
Oh dear, found a marriage for a John Orr Ewing in 1879 but not to an Ellen -

Possible brides are Emily Rawlins or Caroline Dora Rodgers Bedford March 1879 Vol 3b Page 475

Will keep looking.....


scrap the above..... found this one -

Ellen Clarissa Kennard Sept 1883 Kensington Vol 1a Page 242
Dunning/Downing, Osborn/e, Astley -Cheshire/Birmingham/Middlesex
Fanthorpe/Hall/Driffill/Storm - Lincolnshire
Bower/Woodward/Bingham/Pettinger/Shaw - Nottinghamshire
Shaw, Marland - Lancashire
Broph(e)y - Queens County, Ireland
Richards - Neath Swansea
Hunt/Fox - Lincs, Waterfield/Middleton - Staffs
Hart/Harland/Askew/Scales - Yorkshire
Brereton/Vickers - Cheshire
Gleaves/Sandford/Hulse/Hulme - Wolstanton/Audley Staffs
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