June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[Joanna Tolhurst]

Aberdeen library gave me details of Moray library who have a wonderful people finding facility - http://libindx.moray.gov.uk

Duncan Dunbar the elder, uncle to Osbert Forsyth father in law to James Molison
Occupation : MERCHANT
Date of Birth : 14 MAY 1764
Spouses Name : PHOEBE BAILEY
Date of Death : c. 1825
Place of Death : LONDON
Father's Name: JOHN DUNBAR of FORRES
Mother's Name: MARGARET HOYES
Biography: BROTHER OF ROBERT & ELSPETH & JOHN & MARGARET & ALEXANDER & JANET & WILLIAM & JAMES & GEORGE & ANDREW & HELEN & JUSTINA
Marriage Narrative: PARENTS OF MARIA ANNE & JUSTINA & DUNCAN & JOHN & JANET & MARGARET & HELEN & PHOEBE


Duncan Dunbar junior, cousin to Osbert Forsyth
Occupation : BUSINESSMAN & SHIP OWNER
Date of Birth : 1804
Place of Birth : 7 TORE STREET LIMEHOUSE LONDON
Date of Death : 06 MAR 1862
Place of Death : PORCHESTER TERRACE LONDON
Father's Name: DUNCAN DUNBAR of BALNAGEITH FORRES
Mother's Name: PHOEBE BAILEY
Biography: BROTHER OF JOHN DUNBAR EDUCATED AT FORRES GRAMMAR SCHOOL

All the Duncan Dunbar XXX we come across most likely descend from the sisters in either generation.  I'm sure with Duncan Dunbar becoming a millionaire they would have all wanted to maintain the family connection

Time to get back to the Molisons or even the Robertsons.
Jo

[CatOne]

Did we have Sir Archibald Orr Ewing remarrying?? I've come across a webpage that says he married a Mabel Addington in Oct, 1879

http://www.pellew.com/Family%20Tree/Family%20Tree.htm

[CatOne]

Have we got Christian Mollisons death -
Kensington March 1864 Vol 1a Page 90

[Boongie Pam]

Have we got Christian Mollisons death -
Kensington March 1864 Vol 1a Page 90

So she's a different one to the one JoT has grave info for.  Very interesting.

Tremendous lot of info building up - well done JoT for giving your day off.

I hope you had some finds for yourself too.

Pam

[Joanna Tolhurst]

Just one last indulgence on the Duncan Dunbar- promise:
1861
50 Porchester Terrace Paddington
Duncan Dunbar head unmar 57 Shipowner b Limehouse
Margaret  D Mapson sister widow 56 fundowner b Limehouse
Enesie D Mapson niece 30
Phoebe A Mapson niece 27
plus umpteen servants

An unmarried millionaire, bet the ladies were queueing up
Jo

Pam, got stuck on all my family especially up here in Aberden when they're all down South england, London and Wales - its just been intrigueing to find things out.

[CatOne]

I think this is Georgina Susannah's Robertsons death (John Robertson and Betsey Morrisons daughter) -
Lambeth March 1900 Aged 72 Vol. 1d Page 371

[Joanna Tolhurst]

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/Westburyhouse/71stparttwo.htm

An extremely detailed account of the 71st Highland Light Infantry but alas no mention of a Molison William Maule or otherwise.

Jo

[Manchester Rambler]

Marvellous info, Jo - you've done us proud in Aberdeen!  Will try and catch up tomorrow, but I'm too tired to think straight now. 

Night all!

Rambler

[JAP]

Looking in 1891 for the missing Molisons, I came across this one I don't think has been posted, I think it's the sister of Osbert, hasn't the Isle of Wight been mentioned somewhere too.  However, forgive me if it has already been posted.

1891 RG12/895 Isle of Wight, Godshill Folio 23 Page 10
Holly Mount, Boniface Road, Ventnor, Isle of Wight
Mary Francis Head S 52 Living on own means Mauritius B Subject
Caroline Price Sister M 50 " " " "
Mildred F Steele Visitor Wid 28 " " Sydney N.S. Wales
Marion D " Visitor 4 Durban S Africa
Jeanie W Molison Visitor S 24 " " London Holloway
Frances A Cross Serv S 27 Cook (Domestic) Hants Portsmouth
Sarah E Wilkinson Serv S 21 Parlour Maid (Domestic) Muswell Hill, Middlesex

Mary

MaryA,

Great work!  Yes, it was Isabella Anne (FORSYTH) MOLISON who d on the Isle of Wight in 1879.  She was the widow of 'Australian' James (half-brother of "our" Alexander Strachan MOLISON) who d in Nigg in 1869, and thus mother of Osbert W and his siblings.

So you've now found two of the sisters of Osbert W (he d 1882) - the widowed Mildred F STEELE (surely must be ours with a marriage we didn't know about - and Marion D possibly her daughter) and unmarried Jeannie W MOLISON!

So the 1891 round-up so far of the 'Australian' MOLISONs we had in the 1881 Census is:
Isabella
Osbert W d 1882
Annie F
Mildred F found by MaryA on the Isle of Wight, married a STEELE after the census, and now widowed
Saltoun
Jeannie W found by MaryA on the Isle of Wight, unmarried
Robert

Still to be found in 1891 are:
Isabella (b Surrey ca 1850)
Annie F (b Sydney 1862)
Saltoun F (b Sydney 1865)
Robert (b Holloway ca 1869)

JAP
PS: Children we didn't find in 1881 (and whose deaths we don't have) were Margaret F (b Surrey ca 1851) and Allan D (b Sydney  1860) 

Extra Note: In 1881, the FRANCIS sisters were in London - Edward FRANCIS, 74 b Middlesex, Mary 42, Caroline 42, and Edward 26 all b Mauritius, plus 2 servants.  Both men were East India Merchants.
Another Extra Note: In 1901, Mildred Forsyth STEELE 39, b Sydney, Independent Means is living in Gnosall Staffordshire with her widowed brother-in-law, Ross STEELE, a 38yo Surgeon b Ayrshire, and his 3yo daughter Elizabeth and servants.  No sign of Marion D STEELE?
The IGI shows that b-i-l Ross is Ross Stewart STEELE, born Dalry Ayr in 1862, parents Alexander STEELE and Marion ROBERTSON (that ubiquitous name again!).  The marriage of Alexander and Marion is recorded in 1849 in Dalry, Ayr and Paisley, Renfrew - we don't by any chance have a missing Marion ROBERTSON?   Ross's siblings listed are William 1855, Marion Robertson 1857, and Matthew Ross 1858 - don't know which one our Mildred married or whether it was an earlier, unrecorded son.  Marriage of a Ross Stewart STEELE is on FreeBMD - Newport S Dec qtr 1889; births and deaths of children and first wife, their 10yo son is boarding in 1901, then a second marriage in Jun qtr 1902 (wonder what happened then to our Mildred).