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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #882 on: Sunday 12 June 05 19:25 BST (UK) »
OK, having scoured Liverpool for Prescot Street only to find it listed under the West Derby District, I then personally knocked on every house - about 200 in all I'll have you know! ;D ;D and interrogated the families about any Johnsons or Robertsons in the area, all without success.  I conclude:

Alice and family in London in 1861 ARE our family and were enumerated there for the census, subsequently returning before the end of May to have Jessie christened in St Peters.  At two and a half years old I bet the little brat ran all over the place and squawked when the vicar chucked water over her head too.

There are any number of deaths for father Charles Johnson before 1871 so you can take your pick.

Just one thought, if young Hugh Moody was born and died in Mile End to this family, then they did an awful lot of moving about. 

HOWEVER, how would it have been if Alice and Charles Johnson just came home to visit family and got Jessie christened while they were home, after all St Peters is a prestigious church and maybe they saved it up.

Blast, I've just remembered I was supposed to look at another christening on 27th wasn't I while I was there?  I know somebody's going to bring that up and it completely slipped my list before I went as I only had an hour and wanted to cram in quite a lot of things, sorry! and now I can't even find the other one which was the day before.
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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #883 on: Sunday 12 June 05 19:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Mary,

Found this one on the BMD I told you about

Hugh Moody Robertson  0  Sept. qtr. 1869  Mile End vol 1c page 435.

Save you going back to have another look  ;D

Susan 

Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #884 on: Sunday 12 June 05 19:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks Susan, he died before the next 3 months was up, his death listed above.

Oh sorry, I just realised that is the death date?? Didn't know you had it.  It's one of those questions that always seemed to be being asked which is why I went to town to see if I could find it.

Mary
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #885 on: Sunday 12 June 05 19:52 BST (UK) »
Oops sorry Mary  ???  forgot to write down that it was his deathdate.

Susan  ;D
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #886 on: Sunday 12 June 05 20:42 BST (UK) »
Hi Cat

The Charles Johnson you found in 1871 born Sweden, Nat. Brit. Subject, here he is in 1861 serving in the Royal Navy

HMS Edgar    English Channel

Charles Johnson  S     Ab   22  b:  Sweden, British Subject


RG9/4439  folio 18  page 11

Susan  ;D



Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #887 on: Sunday 12 June 05 21:38 BST (UK) »

Alice and family in London in 1861 ARE our family and were enumerated there for the census, subsequently returning before the end of May to have Jessie christened in St Peters.  At two and a half years old I bet the little brat ran all over the place and squawked when the vicar chucked water over her head too.

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HOWEVER, how would it have been if Alice and Charles Johnson just came home to visit family and got Jessie christened while they were home, after all St Peters is a prestigious church and maybe they saved it up.


I'm sure I read on another Rootschat thread (what do you mean, there are others? :)) just yesterday that it was not uncommon for people to return to family homes to have their children christened. 

Sounds like you've got it sorted, Mary!


Paul

PS

Please excuse my absence from this thread.  At a family barbecue at my in-laws today, a less than bright nephew managed to lock his mother's car keys in the boot of her car.  It was, of course, the one AT THE END of the drive, thus blocking the departure of three car loads for the 90 minutes it took the AA to arrive.  To cap it all, when we finally got a lift home we found that the nephew's less than bright uncle had managed to leave HIS car keys at the in-laws.
C'est la vie! :)

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #888 on: Sunday 12 June 05 21:55 BST (UK) »
How come you waited for the only rainy day this week to have a barbecue?  That's in-laws for you ;D ;D  I did sorta wonder who the less than bright nephew's uncle was!
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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #889 on: Sunday 12 June 05 22:20 BST (UK) »


Are the Orr Ewing's anything to do with this family we are tracking?  If so found a "live" one mentioned in a Sunday paper, running a pub  ;D

Susan
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov

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« Reply #890 on: Sunday 12 June 05 22:23 BST (UK) »
I've just received another mail from our Molison/Cornell researcher.  This time it's a William Maule Molison descendancy.

I'll be careful only to post cool info that doesn't kill our playing.

How's this for starters?

On James Molison migrating to Sydney, he went home in a hurry after demolishing most of what is now the CBD of Sydney in an explosion- huge, it levelled a radius of 4 blocks.

I so want to know more about this!  Some accident!

...everything from the big roundabout in Craigshaw out to Girdle Ness and round to the Torry Battery on one side and round and including Nigg Bay on the south side was the Davidson/Molison estate. over 1000 acres. I gave the last bits of it all away.

WILLIAM MAULE MOLISON, LIEUT:

August 23, 1803 he entered the Forfar and Kincardine Volunteers.
1808- volunteered for the 71st Regiment.  Wounded at Walcheren in 1809.


1828 living at Kirkton, Fraserburgh.  Died of heart disease, and buried at Nigg.  

Died probably in poor financial circumstances.  The Aberdeen Journal of 29 August 1832 carried a notice to creditors of his estate.

The Aberdeen Journal in 1914 carried a question about him under the heading "who was he?'  (see para 1083 of the Journal.  There was no answer from anyone.


MARGARET MARIA DAVIDSON:

Margaret was the only member of the Davidson family to marry and have children.  As she married a Molison, she could have ended up with the whole estate, but didn't because she was by-passed and the estate was left to her son James, and Colonel James Davidson the nephew, and son of her daughter Margaret Maria Molison.  

Margaret married a Davidson, but he was not related to the earlier Davidsons who had put the whole estate together.

Nevertheless, this did not stop Colonel James applying to the
Lord Lyon to add the title 4th of Balnagask to his name.


ROBERT DAVIDSON MOLISON

1829 THE RECORDS OF MARISCHAL COLLEGE, UNIVERSITY OF ABERDEEN HAVE AN ENTRY 'ART CLASSES, ALUMNI AND GRADUATES, ROBERT D. MOLLISON(SIC) FATHER GULIELMI(WILLIAM) AGRICO IN PAR DE FRASERBURGH 1ST 2ND 3RD'



SALTOUN MOLISON, b. 23 Oct 1820, KIRKTOWN, FRASERBURGH, SCOTLAND; d. 21 Mar 1821.


MARGARET MARIA MOLISON, b. 19 Jan 1822, KIRKTOWN, FRASERBURGH, SCOTLAND; d. 26 Jun 1889, VENTNOR, ISLE OF WIGHT.
Isle of Wight connection is interesting.

There is some lovely info about William James Molison son of Alexander Strachan Molison (whom our contact is directly descended from).

I don't want to lift it as it is written by another researcher but some snippets include...

...There is some evidence that WJM visited Australia and New Zealand as a young man and he was certainly resident in California as a gold-miner.  He was reputed by hearsay to be an associate of Wm. Cody but I have no recollection of him speaking to me of this.  I now have in my little family archive his RFU cap awarded for an international match, GB vs California!

A fascinating family all together!

Pam
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