June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[Manchester Rambler]

On the 1891 census, Archibald Orr Ewing a married man of 33, is a visitor (minus wife and/or kids) in the household of Alfred Sharp in Bromley.  Archibald's occupation is given as "missionary of outreach".

(RG12/630 - Folio 94- Pg 5)

Also in 1891, John Orr Ewing (36) is living on his own means in Preston Deanery, Northamptonshire.

Family: 
Wife - Edith Alice Ewing (36), b. Ealing
Dau - Helen C D Orr Ewing (11), b. Bedford
Dau - Edith W Orr Ewing (1), b. Preston Deanery, Northamptonshire

(RG12/1192 - Folio 116 - Pg 2)

Rambler

[liverpool annie]

This says Isabella E but we have Isabella Anne........ hope we don't have this already..!!

Kent 1881

Osbert W. MOLISON Relationship Head Condition U Gender M Age 25 Occupation Commercial Clerk Birthplace Sydney, Australia Address 10 Mayow Rd, Lewisham, Kent

Isabella E. MOLISON Relationship Sister Condition U Gender F Age 30 Occupation – Birthplace Kennington, Surrey Address 10 Mayow Rd, Lewisham, Kent

Annie F. MOLISON Relationship Sister Condition U Gender F Age 27 Occupation – Birthplace Balmain, Australia Address 10 Mayow Rd, Lewisham, Kent


Mildred F. MOLISON Relationship Sister Condition U Gender F Age 18 Occupation – Birthplace Woolhara, Australia Address 10 Mayow Rd, Lewisham, Kent

Jeanie W. MOLISON Relationship Sister Condition U Gender F Age 14 Occupation – Birthplace Upper Holloway, Middlesex, Address 10 Mayow Rd, Lewisham, Kent

Florence WATSON Relationship Visitor Condition U Gender F Age 25 Occupation – Birthplace Hammersmith, Middlesex Address 10 Mayow Rd, Lewisham, Kent

Henrietta MOSS Relationship Servant Condition U Gender F Age 23 Occupation Cook Domestic Birthplace Little Linton, Cambridge Address 10 Mayow Rd, Lewisham, Kent

Alice FLEETWOOD Relationship Servant Condition – Gender F Age 19 Occupation Housemaid Domestic Birthplace Norwood, Surrey, Address 10 Mayow Rd, Lewisham, Kent


Annie

[Manchester Rambler]

This says Isabella E but we have Isabella Anne........ hope we don't have this already..!!
Annie

These are James Molison and Isabella Ann Forsyth's children - see previous page.

Rambler

[Paul E]

A Lyte connection (remember them? ) on GenesReunited has promised to pour himself a glass of wine and have a look at this thread at the weekend.  Think he'll need a case of the stuff?

Paul

[Manchester Rambler]

Following up James Ewing, who has 2 sons with middle name Orr.  According to the 1871 census, he was born in Glasgow c1819.  The IGI has a user-submitted birth record for James Ewing, son of William Ewing and Susan Orr, b. Glasgow, 27 Feb 1820.

All children listed in the IGI for William Ewing and Susan (or Susannah) Orr:

William Ewing - 06 Aug 1806, Baldernock, Stirling 
Agnes Ewing - 24 Jan 1808, Baldernock, Stirling   
John Orr Ewing - 14 Jul 1809, Baldernock, Stirling 
Alexander Ewing - 03 Mar 1811, Baldernock, Stirling 
William Ewing - 16 Feb 1813, Baldernock, Stirling   
Walter Ewing - 27 Dec 1814, Baldernock, Stirling   
William Ewing - 24 Apr 1816, Baldernock, Stirling   
Archibald Ewing - 04 Jan 1818, Baldernock, Stirling 
James Ewing - 27 Feb 1819, Baldernock, Stirling
Duncan Leckie Ewing - 23 Feb 1820, Baldernock, Stirling
James Ewing - 27 Feb 1820, Glasgow, Lanark
Susan Orr Ewing - 12 Oct 1821, Glasgow, Lanark
Isabella Buchanan Ewing - 09 Oct 1823, Glasgow, Lanark

The last 3 entries are user-submitted; the others are extracted records.

The same family or not?

Middle names Leckie and Buchanan associated with Ewing - remind anyone of Christian Leckie Ewing's family?  (The wife of Archibald Robertson, cashier.)

Biog of John Orr Ewing: http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/100men/gm33.htm  Brother Archibald also mentioned.

Rambler

[JAP]

Emily and MR,
Stunning stuff about all those EWING connexions with Robertson and Moody and Orr forenames!  I can't think straight now - more than past my  bedtime - but will see if I can make anything further out of it tomorrow.
Propinquity certainly seems to be the thing!

And I always like anything that takes us to Stirlingshire ; )

Liverpool Annie,
Yes we do have the full 1881 census details with Osbert MOLISON as Head (he died young) - it's on the previous page in my posts referring to the Antipodean connexions of James MOLISON, 'half-brother' of "our" Allan's maternal grandfather Alexander Strachan MOLISON.

All the best, everyone,

JAP
PS: Let's hope the Lyte connexion pours himself just the right number of glasses to keep the mind in gear but the tongue fluent!

[Manchester Rambler]

Loads of stuff on Google for Orr/Ewing: I'll try and sift out anything likely to help us:

From The History of Stirlingshire - Chapter XXVII – Titled and Untitled Aristocracy
http://www.electricscotland.com/history/stirlingshire/chap27.htm

Archibald Orr-Ewing, Esquire, of Ballikinrain, is the seventh son of the late William Ewing, Esquire, of Ardvullin, Dunoon, by Susan, daughter of John Orr, Esquire, of Underwood, Paisley. He was born in 1819; and, in 1847, married Elizabeth Lindsay, daughter of James Reid, Esquire, of Berriedale and Caldercruix. He has, with other issue, William, born in 1848; and educated at Pembroke College, Cambridge. Mr. Orr-Ewing was elected M.P. for Dumbartonshire in 1868.

John Warden M’Farlane, Esquire, of Ballencleroch House, Campsie, is the eldest son of John M’Falan, Esquire, by Janet Buchanan, daughter of Robert Ewing, Esquire, of Glasgow. He was born in 1824; succeeded his father in 1852; and in 1857, married Elizabeth, daughter of Duncan Gibb, Esq., of Liverpool. Mr. M’Farlan, who is a captain in the 5th Lancers, was educated at Edinburgh.

The Janet Buchanan Ewing mentioned in the second extract is the aunt of Christian Leckie Ewing, wife of Archibald Robertson, the cashier. 

Rambler

[liverpool annie]

I find this strangely moving and I haven't followed through yet but I'm putting it out there in case anybody has any information already.........

Name: EWING, ARCHIBALD
Initials: A
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Telegraphist
Regiment: Royal Navy
Unit Text: S.S. Ceramic
Age: 32
Date of Death: 07/12/1942
Service No: C/JX 269663
Additional information: Son of Archibald and Margaret B. Ewing, of Edinburgh.
Casualty Type: Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference: 59, 2.
Cemetery: CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL        


Name: EWING, MARY CONNOLLY
Initials: M C
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment: Civilian War Dead
Age: 32
Date of Death: between 06/12/1942 and 07/12/1942
Additional information: of 36 Montgomery Street, Edinburgh; daughter of Mr. and Mrs. W. Topp, of the same address; wife of A. Ewing.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Cemetery: S.S. "CERAMIC"        

Name: EWING, DOREEN MARGARET
Initials: D M
Nationality: United Kingdom
Rank: Civilian
Regiment: Civilian War Dead
Age: 6
Date of Death: between 06/12/1942 and 07/12/1942
Additional information: of 36 Montgomery Street, Edinburgh. Daughter of A. Ewing, and of Mary Connolly Ewing.
Casualty Type: Civilian War Dead
Cemetery: S.S. "CERAMIC"        

http://www.geocities.com/mulderspants/S_S_CERAMIC.html

Annie

PS   Also index on Ancestry for Archibald ANN Ewing for 1871 looks like ORR on the image to me - can anybody confirm that ?

[Manchester Rambler]

Annie - I also read it as Archibald Orr Ewing.  His occupation is given as MP and manufacturer, which (combined with dob) makes him the son of William Ewing and Susan Orr mentioned previously.

I'll list the family for convenience, even if we don't know quite how to connect them to our other Ewings yet:

Archibald Orr Ewing  Head  52  MP [..] Manafacturer  b. Scotland
Elizabeth L Ewing  Wife  44  b. Scotland
William Ewing  Son  22  Student Cambridge (I think!)   b. Scotland
Charles L Ewing  Son  10   b. Scotland
John Ewing  Bro  62  Merchant  b. Scotland
?? Jane Ewing Sis-in-law  53  b. Scotland
(Plus assorted servants.)

( RG10/131 - Folio 56 - Pg51)

This guy became 1st Baronet Orr-Ewing, and his children are:

Sir William Orr-Ewing, 2nd Bt.   b. 14 Feb 1848, d. 20 Aug 1903
Sir Archibald Ernest Orr-Ewing, 3rd Bt.   b. 22 Feb 1853, d. 21 Apr 1919
Janet Edith Orr-Ewing   b. c 1858, d. 15 Jun 1935
Charles Lindsay Orr-Ewing   b. 8 Sep 1860, d. 24 Dec 1903

http://www.thepeerage.com/p5229.htm#i52283

But we still don't know how to connect them to the other line!

Rambler