June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[JAP]

<snip>, this is where my Word doc comes in useful, back on Page 20 Jonathan posted

Married

On the 18th inst. at the Greyfriars Elgin ..... James Molison Esq Commander of the ship Collingwood to Isabella Anne elder daughter of Osbert Forsyth Esq late of Clapham Rise.

The Times 23 July 1849

MaryA, I did see that when I was checking today; I even still have in my head that it was page 20 and I had intended to mention it when I mentioned MR's reference to the marriage - but then I forgot to do so (sorry Jonathan!).  I guess part of the challenge is not having the Word document!

MR, that chap is William Maule MOLISON.  Googling for Saltoun finds a few place names (I guess it could be variously spelled) esp a parish in East Lothian which is probably the original source.  But more directly (given the Fraserburgh etc locations we've seen) it is probably linked to the Lords of Saltoun of the Fraserburgh region.  It seems that the current Head of Clan Fraser is the 20th Lady Saltoun (of the Frasers of Pilorth, now Saltoun).  Well, that's what a quick Google seems to find!

Apart from tracing forwards, we still have plenty of "our" Allan's ancestry to find - we have to prove the ancestry of George ROBERTSON snr and his wife Mary.   Not to mention finding the mother of the (illegitimate?) Alexander Strachan MOLISON and tracing the Maule of William Maule MOLISON back to the time of William the Conqueror...  And now we also have to find the Saltoun link ... Just as well we have plenty of June left ; )

JAP

[Manchester Rambler]

Sorry for the typo JAP, but I think you understood what I meant?

Give me time to put a summary together, so that all the essential details are in one place for reference - I'm doing my best, but do have other commitments...

Rambler

[Madraykin]

Just a thought, and apologies if this is said in the last pages (I'm still trying to get through it all without getting caught by eagle-eyed managers LOL).

Are we still looking for Allan's paternal grandparents?

There's a James Robertson on the 1861, born slightly later than 1843 - 1845 in fact. But he is born in Camberwell, like Allan. The other linking factor is that he (at the age of 16) is a 'Boy 2 Class' aboard the ship the Nile.

Once again, apologies if this has already been found, but could this be Allan's father on the 1861? It could help in finding his parents maybe?

Mads
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Update: Sorry, just finally managed to reach some kind of confirmation about this being wrong (circa P26 I believe). 'Pologies!

[Manchester Rambler]

Anyone who can follow the plot of this thread without being misled by the various red herrings we've chased at different times is doing very well indeed!  Paul called it the Onedin Line, but wth a touch of Dallas thrown in! (The famous Ewing connection...)

For an up to date summary of the Robertson and Molison families, see http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=62822.msg262749#msg262749
(Newest Robertson info in blue.)

Of course, there's a wealth of detail about the Molisons in the info Pam has posted, but for the bare bones of the family this should help show how it all fits together.

Let me know if I've made any howlers!

Rambler

[emilysiobhan]

Am I right in thinking that we don't have info on Helen Robertson (Allan's aunt) post 1851?

I found a possible marriage of a Helen Robertson Sep 1852 in Stepney 1c 923
also on the page is a James Ewing...

In 1861 in Liverpool RG9/2683 are a:
James Ewing bn 1819 Scotland head
Helen Ewing bn 1821 X, Middlesex, wife
Willm. Ewing bn 1854  Liverpool
John O bn 1855 "
George R bn 1856 "
Archibald O bn 1858 "
Hugh M R Ewing bn 1860 "

The names of the sons would seem to suggest that it is Allans auntie Helen.

Emily

[emilysiobhan]

Helen must have died between 1861 and 1871 though I think as James seems to have a new wife Sarah and be living in London in 1871.

[Manchester Rambler]

And she's married a Ewing!  Another one!

Nice one Emily - Scottish naming patterns can be really helpful, although they can also give several people of the same generation the same name, like our friend Archibald Robertson...

I've been playing with the middle names index menioned earlier, trying to find combinations of names which crop up in the family, but nothing conclusive so far.(http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hughwallis/)

Rambler

[Madraykin]

Just thought I'd let you know that I e-mailed a person in Oz who's related to Rev. Thomas Vial Cornell and is wanting to know more about the Cornell's and (especially) the Molisons.

Just wondered if she could shed any light on ASM.........

[Manchester Rambler]

Some of James Ewing and Helen Robertson's chidren from Free BMD:

Sep qtr 1853 - William EWING  - Liverpool  8b 160
Jun qtr 1856 - George Robertson EWING - Liverpool  8b 174
Mar 1860 - Hugh Moody Robertson EWING - Liverpool  8b 156

I make that 5 Hugh Moodys named after the original one so far!

Rambler