June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[JAP]

Some bits of trivia re the LECKIE and EWING people in Scotland - particularly William Leckie (known as Leckie) EWING and his family.   I see that a hyphenated surname LECKIE-EWING appears today in various places on the Internet.

From:
http://www.edmonstone.com/Pages/dunredh.htm
"Archibald Edmonstone of Ballewan and Harlehaven had three sons, James, John and Archibald.
James, who received Broich from his father in 1662, had two sons who both died childless, the second of whom named George, sold Broich to Mr William Leckie in 1773.  Consequently the name of the estate was changed by the latter's grandson, Mr Leckie Ewing, to Arngomery, which it still remains."

From:
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/LANARK/2001-04/0987489483
(Family History Library (LDS)Film Number 1041479 Barony Parish Register of Births and Baptisms for 1838.0) "William Leckie EWING merchant Athole Place and Elenora McFARLINE had a lawful daughter their 9th child born 14th September 1838 named Mary Elizabeth. John McFARLANE and Dr Patrick McFARLANE witnesses. Baptised 30 Oct 1838."

From:
http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/INDIA/2003-03/1047242035
"All the following marriges took place at St. Paul's Cathedral, Calcutta
Date - 17th November 1864 by Licence
Robert Leckie EWING and Margaret BARROW
Both of full age
He a batchelor and she a spinster
Occupation of Groom - Indigo Planter
Abode of both - Alahabad ?
Groom's father - William Leckie
Bride's father - Richard Barrow
Witnesses - Michael Fox and Walter Thomson
Conducted by Horatio Monle (?) Junior Cathedral Chaplain"

From:
http://www.scottap.com/family/Lanark/MLNTestaments/MLNTestaments2B.html
"John BUCHANAN res sometime George St afterwards Melville St, Edin d 21 Oct 1836. James BUCHANAN Tertius mercht Glasgow brother of defunct. William Leckie EWING mercht Glasgow his cousin & Andrew Buchanan YUILLE of Darleith? his son in law"

From:
http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/british/mac/macfarlane04.htm
Here there is ancestry of Eleanor MCFARLANE who married William Leckie EWING of Arngomery.

This is not, of course, the direct line of "our" Allan but (we are thinking) of cousins of his of various degrees.

JAP

[JAP]

Oracle has found them in 1841 now I think.....and there is a Colin in the family (or at least living in the same place, I guess 1841 doesn't actually give relationships)

Apparently in 1841 living with a George and Mary Robertson at 1 Providence place are:
George 21 Collin17 huge12 think it Agnes10 Charles 8 john6 Mary3 Janet1

I think this fits in with the births found in the IGI?

Apologies if we have this already ten pages ago, but I've not had time to read everything today.

Emily

That's great Emily - it's the first time we've seen a Colin with them though he certainly suits the gap between twins George & Helen, and Archibald.

Missing are Helen (George's twin b 1820), and Archibald (b 1825); James (pa of "our" Allan) hasn't yet been born of course.  Perhaps Helen didn't survive but, oh dear, where is Archie!

JAP
Just editing this post.
We've probably had this but it might help to put it here.
Colin Douglas ROBERTSON married Elizabeth Jane DALE on 30 Sep 1848 at St Thomas Stepney (extracted IGI entry)
On page 38, we had, in 1851, Colin D ROBERTSON, 27, provision merchant, b Middlesex Ratcliff, wife Elizabeth J 27, son George 1 and b-i-l John C DALE.

And adding another comment.
If we think that the wife of George ROBERTSON (Mary b Paisley ca 1798) is Mary DOUGLAS (there are LDS submissions for such a marriage in 1819 in Paisley/Greenock); and if we think that this might be the Mary DOUGLAS chr 28 Sep 1797 Paisley, parents Colin DOUGLAS and Elizabeth BUCHANAN, then it is great to find a possible Colin as the second son in the family (in line with Scottish naming patterns).   But why was the first daughter named Helen?  And why is there no Elizabeth?  I guess there's room for an unrecorded Elizabeth between George&Helen and Colin - but where is she in 1841?  And if there was one who didn't survive, it's a bit surprising that they didn't name one of the subsequent daughters Elizabeth.

[Burrow Digger]

Yawwwwwing & stretching
Good morning everyone.

Gosh darn I went to bed too early & missed Sedona's entry.

Hi Sedona. welcome to Rootschat. 

BD

[M.T.H]

Hello everyone,

Wow,this thread is growing at an incredible rate. It's taken me ages to read it all and you might be interested to know (although not surprised) that this thread is now at no.3 in the top 10 Topics by replies, weighing in with an incredible 604,the number one slot being held by the 'British Isles Vital Records Index look up offer PART 2' with 717.

I reckon that very soon,this thread will be at the top!

Great work by everyone,only 3 weeks to go!! Eek...........

Cheers,Mick

 

[MaryA]

While at work I can't do a lot except congratulate, especially Jo and JAP on what seems to be an enormous amount of info, and Annie and Rambler for confirming my tie-in with young Charles family.

Emily, The Oracle seems to have done great things overnight, hope she joins in with us.  I love that she's confirmed the Colin.  I don't believe we have George and Mary in 1851.

Welcome Sedona, its nice to meet you.  I hope some of our findings will be good for you.

A general comment, wouldn't it be nice if some of English records were as comprehensive as other countries like those Scottish death entries and some of the USA and NZ ones.  We just seem to have to work that much harder to make the connections with births, marriages and deaths.

[Manchester Rambler]

Do we have the details of George and Mary Robertson from 1851 yet?

Oracle has found a George and Mary at 1Providence place:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=63406.new#new

which fits with the address from the PO directory.

If we have them already in 1851 can someone add a post there that we don't need them anymore...I"ve completely lost track with this all at the moment.

Emily

The 1851 details haven't been posted on this thread - would love to see them!

Shame Archibald isn't on the 1841 census - would have liked confirmation that he survived childhood to marry Christian Leckie Ewing. Perhaps he's at school - seems to be a family tradition!  Colin is a very interesting find, and I'm going to go back and find the previous references we had to a Colin Robertson, ships chandler.  Helen would have been 21 in 1841, and possibly married.  (If, of course, she survived childhood.)

Rambler

[JAP]

We've probably had this?

Colin ROBERTSON's widow, Elizabeth, in 1881.

At 59 Up Gloster Pl, London, Middlesex, England
- Elizabeth J. ROBERTSON, Head, W, Female, 53, Stratford Le Bow, Middlesex, England; Annuitant      
- George ROBERTSON, Son, U, Male, 28, Stratford Le Bow, Middlesex, England; Bankers Clerk
- Henry Douglas ROBERTSON, Son, U, Male, 23, Marylebone; Accountants Clerk      
- Emma DALE, Sister, U, Female, 49, Stratford Le Bow, Middlesex, England; Annuitant

JAP     

[emilysiobhan]

Hi all,

I'm just downloading the 1841 census image that oracle has sent me so I'll let you know if I can see any other Robertsons on it.

She seems to have sent me 1851 as well, so I'll check that too...in the PM she sent me she mentioned a Robert erwing livingthere...so maybe this is connected with archibald..

JAP..I think I posted Elizabeth Robertson before..but this thread is so long that its now dificult to find anything. She was a Dale as I also came across  the marriage somewhere as well.

I'll invite Oracle to join the thread.

Emily

[emilysiobhan]

I have the 1851 image now, and I think it maybe has Helen on it..

As far as I can make out the family is:

George age 55 Head Ship chandler and sailmaker bn Scotland
Mary age 53 wife bn Scotland
Helen? age 31 daughter unmarried
Hugh M age 22 son prof cl?(chandler??)
Agnes age 21 daughter
Charles X? son 17 proffesion Cl?
John age 16 son...scholar
Mary? age 13 daughter....at home(scholar at home?)
Janet age 11 daugt  at home
James age 8 son   at home
then on the next page:
Robert A? Ewing visitor age 20 prof. Cl born Scotland
+ three servants

Emily