June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[liverpool annie]

1881

Emma Millar abt 1828  West Hackney, Middlesex,  Sister-in-law     
Emma Robertson abt 1819  St Pancras, Middlesex,  Wife 
Fred Wm Robertson abt 1845  Islington, Middlesex,  Son 
Henry Ernest Robertson abt 1857  Islington, Middlesex,  Son 
Herbert Edward Robertson abt 1853  Islington, Middlesex,  Son 
Jane Douglas Robertson abt 1855  Islington, Middlesex,  Daughter   
Jas Douglas Robertson abt 1846   Islington, Middlesex,  Son   
Walter Jordas Robertson abt 1852  Islington, Middlesex,  Son 
William Robertson abt 1823  Scotland Head 

Couple of Douglas' in here

Annie

[JAP]

ROBERTSONs and Visitors
On page 36, JoT posted wonderful information identifying the remaining two Scottish visitors in the 1861 census entry for the household of Mary ROBERTSON (which CatOne had posted on page 28).  This Mary ROBERTSON, b Paisley ca 1798 (her maiden name might perhaps have been Mary DOUGLAS) was the widow of George snr and mother of 10 children including her youngest child, "our" Allan's father James.

Just to recap, the visitors were:
Louisa Gelly HAMILTON, unm, 53 b Greenock (on page 29 I posted identifying her - but not any connexion with the ROBERTSONs)
Jane Eleanor M FIELDING, marr, 29, Farmer's wife, b Glasgow
Janet Buchanan L EVERING??, unm, no age given, b Glasgow

JoT, on page 36, has identified Jane as Jane Eleanora Leckie EWING who married Thomas M FIELDING at Kippen Stirlingshire in 1856.  She also identified Jane's birth as 3 Feb 1832 and chr 8 March 1832 at Barony Lanarkshire, daughter of William Leckie EWING and Eleanora MCFARLANE - William Leckie EWING (aka Leckie EWING) b Glasgow and chr Kippen in 1798, the son of Robert EWING and Isabella LECKIE.

Jo thought therefore that Janet's surname was surely EWING and that she might have been Jane's aunt (Jane's father, William Leckie EWING, had a sister named Janet Buchanan EWING).  However Jo, Janet is listed as unmarried whereas you found a marriage for William's sister.

Jo, I think that Janet is probably Jane's unmarried sister.  You listed the children of William Leckie EWING and Eleanora MCFARLANE as:
Isabella Leckie 5 Oct 1829
Robert Chr 18 Oct 1830
Jean Eleanora Leckie 1832
John Leckie 28 May 1833
Helen Catherine 21 June 1837
all chr at Barony.
I've also come across the following further two extracted entries:
Janet Buchanan 1835
Mary Elizabeth 1838
and a (dodgy?) LDS submission
Eleanora 1841 in Dunbartonshire.

So it seems likely that Janet Buchanan EWING b 1835 is the visitor in 1861.

Anyway, the above is a prelude to the next post - a possible
connexion between the Leckie EWING family and ROBERTSON.

JAP

[liverpool annie]

http://deena.ca/df_cross_lc.html

In Memory of
William Strachan Molison DFC and Bar

Captain
109759
Royal Artillery
attd. 622 A.O.P. Sqdn., Royal Air Force
died  Wednesday, 28th March 1945. Age 30.
Additional Information  Son of William James Molison and Hilda Maria Molison,
Sanderstead, Surrey.

Cemetery Reichswald Forest War Cemetery Germany
Grave Reference/Panel Number:  60. C. 13.
 

[JAP]

'Leckie EWING' visitors and ROBERTSON link

Before posting this information, I can't stress too strongly how common a name ROBERTSON is!

Here is the information.

A Christian Leckie EWING, father William Leckie EWING married an Archibald ROBERTSON in Oct 1849 - extracted entries in both Kippen, Stirlingshire and Barony, Lanarkshire.

Obviously it is very tempting to think that Archibald might be "our" Archibald, 1825 - son of George snr and Mary (Mary from Paisley).  It is also tempting to think that this Archibald might be the Greatgrandson of Hugh MOODY mentioned by Manchester Rambler on page 35.   But there is nothing to sustain this tempting thought so far apart from the presence of 'Leckie EWING' visitors in the household of "our" George snr's widow Mary (mother of "our" Allan's father, James).

Although - look at the name of their last child!

Archibald ROBERTSON and Christian Leckie EWING had:
John Aeneas b 5 Jul 1850 Barony LKS
Eleanora McFarlane b 13 Jan 1852 Kippen STI (don't know about this one - it's an LDS submission)
Elizabeth Morrison b 13 Dec 1853 Barony LKS
Isabella Lilly b 23 Feb 1858 Milton, Glasgow LKS
William Leckie Ewing b 30 Dec 1850 Milton, Glasgow LKS
Janet Georgina b 9 Apr 1861 Milton, Glasgow LKS
Helen Margaret b 10 Oct 1862 Milton, Glasgow LKS
Archibald b 24 Nov 1863 Milton, Glasgow LKS
Archy Mary Douglas b 30 Mar 1870 Anderston, Glasgow LKS

Could someone who has the full 1881 census CD (i.e. including Scotland) do a lookup for this family?  Especially to find the occupation, date of birth, and birthplace of this Archibald ROBERTSON.

And, if the above Archibald is not the Archibald ROBERTSON, cashier at the Royal Bank, Glasgow (grandson of the Archibald ROBERTSON who married Janet MOODY mentioned by Manchester Rambler on page 35), please look for a bank cashier Archibald ROBERTSON.

Fingers crossed!

JAP
PS: I do hope we end up in Kippen, Stirlingshire - a Ggggma of mine (Janet HALL ms MCLAUSE) was born there ca 1815. 


 

[Sedona]

It's Sedona here at 11 pm our time and I need to go to bed but I didn't want you guys to think I forgot about you!  In the meantime, here is a brick wall for you:  my great grandfather, Reginald Luckock Muir disappeared and the family never knew what happened to him. It seems he did come to the USA, maybe with a brother but no one in the family knows what became of him. There was something about a bad investment in a mine in the United States (having borrowed money from a brother in England).  His wife and 3 children (including my grandfather) moved to the USA on their own before he did, I think.  We have no info of there ever being a divorce but wonder if he married again anyway and may have had other children.  He may have died in the US but we can't find a death record. My father and his brother and sister and I have all tried to find some record of Reginald but can't.  He did send money to his family for a little while.  I thought my grandfather once told me that at some time he was in Texas but my father said he never heard that.  Anyway, there is a tidbit for now.  I'm sure I have several more "brick walls", as well as being able to fill in some gaps for you.  Good night and thank you, Sedona.

[liverpool annie]

Wow ... Hi Sedona and welcome - we thought you were a figment of our imagination !!!!

What do you think so far?? - before you go to bed do you have any approx dates? - names etc?

Annie

[JAP]

Re my post two posts back.

The Archibald ROBERTSON who married Christian Leckie EWING was the cashier at the Glasgow Bank i.e. he is the same person as the grandson of Hugh MOODY.

From:
http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/smihou/smihou006.htm
(emphasis added)
Mr. Leckie Ewing was a well known Glasgow merchant, a member of the old firm of Stirling Gordon & Co., and for many years, in connection with his partners, John Gordon of Aikenhead, Charles Stirling of Cadder, and Charles Stirling of Gargunnock, took a leading part in the politics of Glasgow and the West of Scotland on the Tory or Conservative side. He formed one of the deputation who went to Drayton Manor to invite Sir Robert Peel to a public banquet in Glasgow in 1837 on the occasion of his installation as Lord Rector of the University. He died in 1866. His eldest daughter married Archibald Robertson, cashier of the Royal Bank in Glasgow, and another daughter is the wife of Michael Connal, a very well known and esteemed citizen of Glasgow

We still need a census lookup for Archibald's age and birthplace.

JAP

[liverpool annie]

You worked hard on that one Jap - good going !! I was going to say I had posted on page 35 -  a very young Archibald banker   
but it looks like you have that one nailed !!

Annie

[Sedona]

Annie, I have so many names and dates related to this line of my family  that I would be up all night!  Unless, of course you are only referring to Reginald.  He was born 10 may 1870 on a ship off Bombay Harbor, India.  I have the name of the ship but will need to look it up.  He is the son of Charlotte Maria Ann Wilkinson King and James Muir.  He married Jane Ellen (Nellie) Blackett Jennings (who I met as a young child not long before she died in 1955).  They married on 29 July 1892 in Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland.  He had 3 children with Nellie.  Jane Kathleen Muir b. 4 Mar 1893, James Jennings Muir (my grandfather) b. 3 June 1894 Cardiff, Wales (possibly at sea and just registered here), and Charlotte Gertrude Muir b. 21 Nov 1896.  I have so much more info but it is getting close to midnight.  I have never scanned text before but if my scanner does that, maybe I can scan some of this.  I can definitely send more names than you want from Barbados relatives!  I do know that my grandfather was somewhere around 11 or 12 when he came here with his mother and sisters.  I will write in the daytime next time!  Good night and nice to meet you!.