June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[liverpool annie]

Are we doing Dunbar's too

Found a list of Dunbar Ships

http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk/DATA/Duncan_Dunbar/duncan_dunbar.html

And births marriages and deaths if anybody is interested.......
http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk/DATA/data.html

Annie

[MaryA]

Well I had a disappointing trip to the south end of Liverpool.  As my ex-hubby used to live in High Park Street I had an idea that there wasn't going to be anything to find there and I was right - all demolished, further up the street new houses had been built but where number 26 was is clear ground, no doubt ready for rebuilding soon.

Yuck I found 37 South Hill Road and wish I hadn't.  You can see from the houses in the side street what kind they would have been but 37 seems to have been a corner house and of recent years would have been a shop, but no longer.

[Biker]

Emily, yes the 1851 only has a partial surname index, but there are a few people with the surname indexes for St George in the East  and other close areas - that should cover them if we are looking for anyone in the Stepney area.

Alternatively, we need an 1861 address to request a specific lookup for 1851.

1841 you definitely need an address.

I think it might be worth posting for an 1851 lookup request for .... Molinson and Robertson families if we expect them to be in St Geo in the East or close by.  What would the families look like in 1851? Sorry I'm losing my mind now, need a cuppa  

What do you think?

J

[Burrow Digger]

     
        Hi Guy's,
                  Did we get any interest back from the John Robertson Ltd, Timber Company.

                                  Sent a fax, from the shop, outlining our challenge.
                                         
                                            Lesanne.   

I've got nothing back yet but it IS the weekend so I think we should wait till Monday before we go chasing him up.

[Biker]

Are we doing Dunbar's too

Found a list of Dunbar Ships

http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk/DATA/Duncan_Dunbar/duncan_dunbar.html

And births marriages and deaths if anybody is interested.......
http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk/DATA/data.html

Annie

Fantastic, notice all the ships are there Collingwood, Earl Grey, Edwin Fox and the Molisons are mentioned!

J

[MaryA]

Uncle George's business address of 31 Strand Street is, as I thought no longer there, along that stretch of road is a Fitness Club and the Police Station.  But the site would have been opposite the Albert Dock so in exactly the right place for a ships chandlers and sailmakers.

Just to cheer us up I took a picture of the likely pub where George and Charles probably would have gone for a pint after work, the Baltic Fleet one of the oldest and most well known around the Liverpool dock area.

A friend on another Liverpool messageboard has kindly done us a look up in Trade Directories and it seems that, maybe after George died, Charles either moved or took additional premises.

The company is still going in 1911, there is a reference to a Charles M. Robertson, Ships Chandler (Geo. R. & sons) 57 Peel St. S.

1939, There is no mention of Charles Robertson, or the business

Wish I had known about this address before I took my trip, Peel Street is right opposite the top end of South Hill Road.  I don't know the area at all so I'm not able to say whether there are any properties still there.

[MaryA]

Thinking about a look up in 1851 the only two we can say with a certainty are James 1843 and George 1820 but with such an age difference, even George may have flown the coop by then as his eldest child that we know of was born 1852.

A useful look up might be George's family to see if any parents/siblings were with him.  We have
George Robertson 1820 born Wapping
Mary Walker Robertson 1822 born Port of Glasgow
and in 1861 there was a visitor David Gilkison born 1820 Port of Glasgow - wonder if he could be related?
As George and Mary would have been 31/29 it could be that they had older children.  I can't remember if we have a marriage date for them?

[liverpool annie]

Mary

Thanks so much for the pictures - I love it when we can imagine "our" people being there..... I just remembered a Uncle of mine used to work for a ships chandlers down by the Albert Dock I've just sent an email to my cousin to find out where - I know I have it here somewhere - but" Disorganized Annie "can't find it.....

Will post later

Annie

[Chattykathy]

Mary, Annie beat me to this post --  I second the thanks for the pictures --  really is great --  even if it was a disappointment.  Too bad it wasn't a Starbucks!

kathy