June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[Burrow Digger]

There's been a suggestion that Allan's dark hair/eyes and Barbadian ancestry might mean he has black ancestry... I just wanted to give the reasons why I doubt this:

Okey dokey & thanks Impy

I now have the next 5 hours to find some new info while you guys snore. 

sleep tight everyone 

BD

[liverpool annie]

Girlfriend !

That is so cool - I have to admit - it didn't cross my mind that they might be black but why not ?

To be honest  - I just like to have a picture in my mind so I can make up stories - thats why I was so disappointed when one of the guys was only 5"3.......... I imagined tall dark and handsome......

Annie

[Paul E]

I now have the next 5 hours to find some new info while you guys snore.

sleep tight everyone

BD

Did anyone say we're off to bed?

Its Friday, after all - no work tomorrow.

Leafing through a history of Barbados in a bookshop today (as you do) it became obvious why most of the white plantation owners and traders wouldn't need to think about marrying a black slave.  It seems to have been shockingly common that they had virtually free reign over female slaves.  Their wives even appear to have accepted it as the norm that their husbands would have such 'dalliances' (which is perhaps too genteel a word to decribe what probably amounted to rape  ).  It seemed, from what I read, to have been all too commonplace.

Paul

[Candolim_Imp]

Yes, the pick of the younger female slaves was a "perk of the job"!!... the mixed race children who were born as a consequence were often given house jobs, a much easier life than the hard labour outdoors... though there are instances of these children being brought back to England and educated here.

Anyway, this is going off topic a bit I suppose, sorry to distract...

Annie, I meant that it's highly unlikely for Allan to have black ancestry... I think his Barbadian line is one of slave owners, rather than of slaves.

I don't know what you have against short men, though... I'm rather partial to the short dark & handsome type myself

Impy

[liverpool annie]

I know Impy - I married one....!!

I just like to dream about the tall ones.......

Back to business..............

Liverpool Poll Book 1832
(no Robertson's only Robinson's)

ROBINSON,CHARLES,SAIL MAKER,MERSEY STREET,LIVERPOOL,S & D,
ROBINSON,DANIEL,SAIL MAKER,CLARE STREET,LIVERPOOL,S & D,BGS/FMN
ROBINSON,DAVID,SAIL MAKER,MARLBOROUGH STREET,LIVERPOOL,S & D,BGS/FMN
ROBINSON,GEORGE,COTTON BROKER,GOREE,GOREE,E & T,L'POOL VOTE
ROBINSON,JOHN,GENT,TARLETON STREET,LIVERPOOL,E & T,BGS/FMN
ROBINSON,JOSEPH,COTTON BROKER,MOSS STREET,WEST DERBY,E & T,
ROBINSON,RICHARD,GENT,GRAFTON STREET,TOXTETH PK.,E & T,


Is a Gent -  a Gentleman or a Gent's outfitter?

Annie

[Chattykathy]

Charlotte Muirs GGG grandparents , maternal side ( I think...I'm so confused!)

William Forte b. circa 1740
son of  Richard Forte     b. 1707 Barados
            Margaret Bissell b. Aug 4, 1712 St. Michaels Barbados

Richard Forte & Margaret Bissell m. Sep 23, 1732 in St. MichaelsIGI extracted source

m. Margaret Leslie b. circa 1745
on Dec 28, 1767 St. Thomas Barbados   
verified this marriage date in IGI Extracted source[/color]

Children:
Samuel Forte               b. Oct 30, 1768 St. Thomas Barbados
Margaret Leslie Forte  b. May 9,  1773 St. Thomas Barbados
Elizabeth Forte            b. Sep 8,  1776 St. Thomas Barbados

also son William c. Sept 17, 1775 St. James Barbados found in IGI; may well be more children for this William and Margaret

Source is user submitted info on Rootsweb Trees

451 Fortes in Barbados in IGI with every imagineable name combination---  AHHHH!   Will be happy to go back after Summary Update to see what specific Holes we need to fill.

kathy

[liverpool annie]

Did any of our guys die during this time ? if they did - this is possibly why... !

Cholera Outbreak (1854)

Several cholera outbreaks were recorded in Barbados’ history but the one of 1854 was indeed the most serious and caused the lives of more than 15,000 people in just a few months.


Annie

[Candolim_Imp]

Annie... I've always liked my men within easy reach!!... your gent would be a gentleman I think.... a posh bloke of independent means!

LOL, I'm just sitting here throwing easy snippets in cos I've lost track of who's who! (and I started to get cross-eyed after page 13).

Have we established that no-one was in Liverpool in the 18thC? cos I have a copy of the 1766 directory for Liverpool... is there anyone I can look for in there?

[Candolim_Imp]

Robinsons in 1766:

Benjamin, Sailmaker, Mersey St
John, Merchant, North East Side South Dock
John, Anchorsmith, East Side Old Graving Dock
John, Sailmaker, Paradise St
Michael, Attorney-at-law, Dale St
Richard, Broker, Hackin's Hey
Thomas, Physician, Chapel St