June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[Biker]

I think Limehouse and Wapping are pretty close to each other.

Yes Emily, they are continguous running along the Thames to the east of the Tower of London, both closely associated with shipping with many commercial activities as well as docks lining both districts (e.g. wapping dock, shadwell dock, limehouse basin etc) and pivotal in imports/exports (tea, sugar, lumber, oils, fruit) throughout the colonies.

Jonathan

[Manchester Rambler]

I think that the second George is the son of the first George. The son was born around 1852 according to the 1871 census that was posted. 

George Wood Robertson abt 1852 London, Middlesex, England Son

I'm also thinking that George born 1820 is Alan's great-uncle rather than uncle.

If James was born around 1843, and George in 1820, yes they could be brothers from the same family, but they could also be uncle/nephew.

BD

The census info so far definitely shows George (1820) as brother of James (1843) - for what that's worth.  Yes, George Wood Robertson (1852) is the son of George (1820). 

However, if a firm named George Robertson, Ship Chandler, existed in 1829, it wasn't founded by the George b. 1820!   I was suggesting that possibly George, James and John's father was also called George.

Rambler

[Burrow Digger]

Yes Emily, [Limehouse and Wapping] are continguous running along the Thames to the east of the Tower of London, both closely associated with shipping with many commercial activities as well as docks lining both districts (e.g. wapping dock, shadwell dock, limehouse basin etc) and pivotal in imports/exports (tea, sugar, lumber, oils, fruit) throughout the colonies.

Jonathan

You didnt mention cotton.  Alan was a cotton merchant after all.  OR maybe the cotton merchants just work out of Liverpool.

I'm also been thinking about Alan having brown hair and brown eyes? Can I suggest that one of his ancestors from the Barbados might have been a native of that country?

BD

[Burrow Digger]

Has anyone seen this?
Posted here at Rootschat - about halfway down the page. Does anyone know who Kenjo is?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,45632.0.html

There father Thomas Molyson c 22/3/1760 Brechin
his father John Molyson
     mother Fergusia Tod..
These are their children.
THOMAS MOLYSON -  Male Christening: 22 MAR 1760 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
MARGARET MOLISON -  Female Christening: 05 NOV 1761 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
CATHARINE MOLISON - Female Christening: 30 SEP 1763 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
ANNE MOLISON -  Female Christening: 02 JAN 1765 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
FERGUSIA MOLISON -Female Christening: 30 APR 1766 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
 EUPHEMIA MOLISON -  Female Christening: 26 OCT 1767 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
DAVID MOLISON -  Male Christening: 07 JUN 1769 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
FRANCES MOLISON -  Female Christening: 29 OCT 1770 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
JEAN MOLISON - Female Christening: 17 SEP 1772 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
 MARY MOLISON - Female Christening: 09 NOV 1774 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
ALEXANDER MOLISON -  Male Christening: 12 MAR 1777 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
JAMES MOLISON -  Male Christening: 14 OCT 1778 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
 ROBERT MOLISON - Male Christening: 08 MAR 1781 Brechin, Angus, Scotland
  ISABEL MOLISON - Female Christening: 03 JAN 1785 Brechin, Angus, Scotland


Further down the thread is this post by Kenjo

You have some very wonderful characters in your family.
such as Naval Captains that caught foriegn ships and they won rewards for this also they were mentioned in the peerage, there was one famous sailor, he drowned in NZ.
family letters were sent back to England. this is all on the net.

BD

[Biker]

Hi BD

Sorry, was just giving examples, Limehouse/Wapping and environs (generally referred to as the London Docks) were one of the main shipping areas for all kinds of goods, apart from the ones I mentioned tobacco, wool, silk, wine were also important.  But the docks were vast and commodities varied ... during the Victorian era they were the largest docks in the world I think.

You may be right in inferring that cotton was more important up north though  

Jonathan

[Paul E]

Has anyone seen this?
Posted here at Rootschat - about halfway down the page. Does anyone know who Kenjo is?

Hi Digger

I sent Kenjo a link to this thread earlier today - s/he's either freaked out or examining the data as I speak (the thread came up on a Molison search on Google, which is encouraging).

Hope s/he's not just being shy!
cheers

Paul

[Burrow Digger]

the thread came up on a Molison search on Google, which is encouraging

Yeah thats how I found it too.

I have Alexander Strachan Molison born 1829 in St George in the East (wherever that is - Stepney maybe?)

I wonder if a member of that family I previously posted, might be Alexander's father or grandfather. It would be cool.

Now we still need to find the parents of James Muir & James/John/George Robertson

BD

[Manchester Rambler]

A user-submitted record on the IGI gives James Muir's birth as 30 Oct 1827  Whitby, Yorkshire.  Parents: Captain Thomas Muir and Mary Dale.  It also specifies that Charlotte was born on board the ship "Golden Eagle".  An extracted record has a christening for a James Muir in Whitby on 03 Nov 1827 - parents Thomas Muir and Mary.

Burrow Digger - I'm not familiar with Legacy, but will it let you enter James Robertson's father as ?? Robertson or XXX Robertson until we know the real name? 

Rambler

[Burrow Digger]

A user-submitted record on the IGI gives James Muir's birth as 30 Oct 1827  Whitby, Yorkshire.  Parents: Captain Thomas Muir and Mary Dale.  It also specifies that Charlotte was born on board the ship "Golden Eagle".  An extracted record has a christening for a James Muir in Whitby on 03 Nov 1827 - parents Thomas Muir and Mary.

Burrow Digger - I'm not familiar with Legacy, but will it let you enter James Robertson's father as ?? Robertson or XXX Robertson until we know the real name? 

Rambler

Can you paste the entire transcription for that IGI record? I realise that you probably found it using the names Muir/Dale, but why would Charlottes birth be mentioned when its her father's birth record we're looking for?   I'd like to see the proof please 

And yes I can enter an "unknown father" for James Robertson, good idea. So I wrote "unknown possibly George", so now the name reads "unknown possibly George Robertson"   

BD