June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

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Hang on a second, why are we looking in London?? The challange is to find Allan Robertson from Liverpool

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lets start again

the original 1881 census record


Allan ROBERTSON Household
    Male   
    Birth Year <1873> 
    Birthplace Camberwell, Surrey, England 
    Age 8 
    Occupation Scholar 
    Marital Status   
    Head of Household Mary M. ROBERTSON
    Relation Son 
 
  Source Information:
    Dwelling 26 High Park St
    Census Place Toxteth Park, Lancashire, England 
    Public Records Office Reference RG11
    Piece / Folio 3646 / 97
    Page Number 50


Is Liverpool in Lancashire??

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Ok heres Alan's birth and marriage records - from FreeBMD

Births Dec 1872
Robertson  Alan    Camberwell  1d 670   


Marriages Sep 1898
Muir  Charlotte Georgina D     Toxteth Park  8b 422   
Robertson  Alan     Toxteth Park  8b 422   

And from IGI we get the marriage details - with a wrong POB?

Husband
Alan Robertson
Birth:  21 OCT 1872  Of, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Christening:     
Marriage:  14 JUL 1898   
Death:  08 OCT 1942  Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Burial:     

 
Wife
 Charlotte Georgina Dale Muir
 Birth:  29 DEC 1867  , , At Sea
Christening:     
Marriage:  14 JUL 1898   
Death:  30 AUG 1913  Tupelo-Rice, Navarro, Texas
Burial:     

Father:   James Muir
Mother:   Charlotte Maria Ann Jenkins Wilkinson King   
 
Children

Douglas Muir Robertson
   Male   
   Birth:  09 JAN 1900  Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Christening:     
Death:  02 OCT 1942   
Burial:     

Interesting that the wife died in Texas - did the family move there?


 

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Alan died in Liverpool

Death index shows

Alan Robertson  age 69 Dec Qtr  Liverpool S (south?)  8b 107

No mention of Douglas' death in the same Qtr at least not in england.

It was WW2 at the time. Wonder if Douglas was KIA?

[emilysiobhan]

I can't find a suitable Al(l)an Robertson in the 1901 census so maybe he had moved to Texas in 1900.

I did find a death of a suitably aged Alan Robertson in 1893 in Pancras, London, but your find in the IGI looks more likely.

It looks like a user provided data entry than from Parish records? Which would make it more likely that some of the details could be incorrect.

Maybe the "of Liverpool, Lancashire" means where he was living when he got married.

I think Liverpool probably was in Lancashire at some point but now is it's own county like London or Birmingham? But I'm from the south so am not so good at northerm geography.

Emily

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From the IGI again

Husband
Douglas Muir Robertson
Birth:  09 JAN 1900  Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Christening:    
Marriage:  11 JUL 1928  
Death:  02 OCT 1942  
Father:   Alan Robertson Family
Mother:   Charlotte Georgina Dale Muir  
Wife
Name Unavailable  



Douglas was married in 1928 but his wife's name is unavailable.      


We still need to find Alan's parents 

[liverpool annie]

Name:   ROBERTSON, DOUGLAS MUIR
Initials:   D M
Nationality:   United Kingdom
Rank:   Commander (E)
Regiment:   Royal Naval Reserve
Unit Text:   H.M.S. Curacoa
Date of Death:   02/10/1942
Additional information:   Husband of D.G.Robertson.
Casualty Type:   Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:   65, 3.
Cemetery:   CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL       

This was on Commonwealth War Graves

Annie

[emilysiobhan]

The HMS Curacoa has quite a sad story.....

It seems to have been sunk by the Queen Mary:

http://uboat.net/allies/warships/ship/1199.html
http://beehive.thisissouthwales.co.uk/default.asp?WCI=SiteHome&ID=9517&PageID=55728