June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[CatOne]

theres also a marriage for a John Orr Ewing in Sept 1887 Brentford Vol 3a Page 181 to either Grace Black, Eliza Crocker or Edith Alice Fountain

How many John Orr Ewings were there??? Or how many times did he marry?!

[piedstilt]

I got lost about 50 pages back 

I do hope someone is going to post the definitive family tree for this lot so we can all catch up 

Ros

[Paul E]

Hi Ros

Definitive?  This one will run and run!   It beats the socks off neighbours, Coronation Street and Eastenders all at once!
It seems that MR, Mary, Catone, JoT, JAP, Pam and everyone else are mining an almost inexhaustable supply of Orrs et al.

cheers

Paul

[CatOne]

Paul,

and I think you were the (crazy) one that volunteered to put it all on a webpage!!!   


Cat 

[MaryA]

Paul only did it for the fame and fortune, didn't you?  I'm sure he's discovered links between his own family and that unmarried millionaire type and he's hoping to inherit the entire bangshoot.

Mary

[Manchester Rambler]

There are 2 John Orr Ewings (cousins), with at least 3 marriages between them!

1.  Son of James Ewing and Helen Robertson - b. c1855, Liverpool

Married (a) Caroline Dora Rogers, Mar qtr 1879 Bedford.  One daughter: Helen Caroline Dora Orr Ewing, b. c1880, Bedford.  Caroline died Jun qtr 1880 Bedford, aged 19.  ( )

Married (b) Edith Alice Fountain, Sep qtr 1887, Brentford.

Here's his family in 1891:

John Orr Ewing  Head  36  Living on own means   b. Liverpool
Edith Alice Orr Ewing  Wife  36  b. Ealing
Helen C D Orr Ewing  Dau  11  b. Bedford
Edith W Orr Ewing  Dau 1  b. Preston Deanery, N/hants
Elizabeth Jane Fountain  Visitor  Living on own means  b. Ealing

RG12/1192 - Folio 116 - Pg.2

In 1901, John is a "visitor" in what looks like a hotel in Margate.  Edith is with the children, and listed as head of household:

Holmer Hall, Holmer, Hereford

Edith Orr Ewing  Head  46  Living on own means  b. Ealing
Dora Orr Ewing  Dau  20  b. Bedford
Ina Orr Ewing  Dau  10  b. Preston Deanery
Hugh Orr Ewing  Son  9  b. Preston Deanery
Greta Orr Ewing  Dau  8  b. Holmer, Herefordshire
Evelyn Orr Ewing  Dau  7  b. Holmer, Herefordshire
Alice Orr Ewing  Dau  6  b. Holmer, Herefordshire
Helen Orr Ewing  Dau  3  b. Holmer, Herefordshire
(Plus the inevitable servants)

RG13/2482 - Folio 63 - Pg 17

2.  Son of Sir Archibald Ewing and Elizabeth Reid - b. 1859, Glasgow

This one married an Ellen.

Rambler

[CatOne]

We'll all look forward to seeing Pauls webpage on this family dynasty  

ps. I think the marriage in 1879 for John Orr Ewing was to Caroline Dora Rodgers, because on the 1881 census a widowed John (annuitant) is living with his inlaws Moses and Caroline Rogers, their daugher Hannah, 2 grandsons Henry and Walter, and Johns daughter Helen C D?, as well as visitors Ship Builder/Broker Reginald W Bernheim? and Anne Oliver 69 Annuitant. Moses is a retired magistrate JP/Deputy Inspector............ cant read the rest of it...... St Paul Bedfordshire RG11/1619 Folio 72 Page 35

*ive just read your post Rambler which confirms above, thanks

[Manchester Rambler]

Here are the Liverpool John Orr Ewing's children on Free BMD:

Helen Caroline D[ora] O[rr] Ewing - Jun 1880 Bedford  3b 350  ("Dora")
Edith Wilhelmina O[rr] Ewing - Sep 1889 Hardingstone  3b 34a  ("Ina")
Hugh James O[rr] Ewing - Jun 1891 Hardingstone  3b 35
Greta Mary Ewing - Sep 1892 Hereford  6a 464
Evelyn Margaret O[rr] Ewing - Dec 1893 Hereford  6a 451
Alice Orr Ewing - Jun 1895 Hereford  6a 478
Helen Douglas O[rr] Ewing - Dec 1897 Hereford  6a 458

Rambler

[liverpool annie]

Name:       HUGH JAMES EWING
Death Registration Month/Year:        Mar/87
Age:       95
Birth Date:        1 MAY 1891
District:       Bristol County:       Avon
Volume       22
Page       1081

Is this one of the Hugh James died aged 95!!??

Annie