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Offline Boongie Pam

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #891 on: Sunday 12 June 05 22:26 BST (UK) »
Keziahemm,

Michael says...

I have noticed one of your members- Kezia- is studying Mytton. She should read 'The last of the Myttons- Halston House.' in Abbeys Castles and Ancient Halls of England & Wales, by Timbs and Gunn.

A great story indeed.


Have you seen this book?

Pam
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #892 on: Sunday 12 June 05 22:33 BST (UK) »


I live about 15 minutes away from Buffalo Bill's grave and Museum - could be a project for the boys and I to see if they have anything regarding WJM


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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #893 on: Sunday 12 June 05 22:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Pam,

No I haven't seen the book about the Mytton's I shall have to seek it out and have a read.  Looks as if it could be very interesting.  Thanks Michael  ;D

Susan :)
Herefordshire: Mytton.
Lincs: Ingham
Northants: Knight (Welford); Linnell;  Gaudern.
Staffs (Brierley Hill, Kingswinford): Wood; Eades.
Somerset: Bailey; Lewis
Warwickshire: (Alcester, Henley in Arden) Lewis; Casey/Keasey
Warwickshire (Birmingham suburbs) Knight
Yorkshire (Bradford):  Ingham


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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #894 on: Sunday 12 June 05 23:01 BST (UK) »
Some pages back we had from 1881:
It is in Lewisham Kent and comprises:
- Osbert W MOLISON, Head, 25, b Sydney Australia, Commercial Clerk
- Isabella E. MOLISON, Sister, U, 30, b Kennington, Surrey, England            
- Annie F. MOLISON, Sister, U, 27, b Balmain, Australia
(Balmain is a suburb of Sydney)            
- Mildred F. MOLISON, Sister, U, 18, b Woolhara(sic), Australia
(Woollahra is a suburb of Sydney)            
- Jeanie W. MOLISON, Sister, U, 14, b Upper Holloway, Middlesex, England            
- Florence WATSON, Visitor, U, 25, b Hammersmith, Middlesex, England            
- and 2 servants.

Noticing that birth in Holloway, Middlesex, I suspect that the following lad is a member of the same family:
At school in Lancing as a Boarder:
- Robert J MOLISON, 12, b Holloway, Middlesex


We've also got James Molison father of the above dying in Nigg, Kincardine just south Aberdeen in 1869.  where are the children in 1871?  I've checked England and Scotland to no avail.

Some pages back we also had the 1871 census details showing Margaret Molison nee Davidson, James' mother, with married daughter Catherine Adamson and family.  Just out of interest, Catherine's son Henry McKenzie Adamson, medical student, by 1881 had moved in Balnagask House.

Great info from Pam. I intend to head into Aberdeen library tomorrow to see if I can find out anymore snippets.
Jo
TOLHURST - Hastings  OSBORN - East Sussex
GOLDSACK - Hastings & Kent
HAINES - IOW, Portsmouth  ALEXANDRE - Guernsey
CLARKE - Portsmouth  BREEDON - Portsmouth, Nottinghamshire
HORNBY,  KING,  WILKENS,  GOODAIR  - all London
GRAHAM - Portsmouth, briefly Canada, Fife
MCINTOCH, STEWART, DUNSYRE, SIM, BONAR, RUSSELL, TRAIL - Fife
HUGHES - Glamorgan, Herefordshire   NICHOLAS - Breconshire
ROSE, KEMP, SEAGER, SIMS, KNEE, BOX - Wiltshire


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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #895 on: Sunday 12 June 05 23:33 BST (UK) »
The only one we know about at present is James, who married Isabella Anne Forsyth in Elgin, Moray on 18 Jul 1849.  Isabella was chr. 12 Mar 1826), dau of Osbert Forsyth and Isabella Reid.

James was a ships captain, working for the Duncan Dunbar fleet.  His wife was related to the Dunbar family.  James and Isabella had at least 9 children:
  from the wonderful summaries.

Osbert Forsyth was the son of Alexander Forsyth and Margaret Dunbar chr 15 June 1779 Huntley Aberdeenshire.  Guessing that Margaret will connect to Duncan Dunbar.

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TOLHURST - Hastings  OSBORN - East Sussex
GOLDSACK - Hastings & Kent
HAINES - IOW, Portsmouth  ALEXANDRE - Guernsey
CLARKE - Portsmouth  BREEDON - Portsmouth, Nottinghamshire
HORNBY,  KING,  WILKENS,  GOODAIR  - all London
GRAHAM - Portsmouth, briefly Canada, Fife
MCINTOCH, STEWART, DUNSYRE, SIM, BONAR, RUSSELL, TRAIL - Fife
HUGHES - Glamorgan, Herefordshire   NICHOLAS - Breconshire
ROSE, KEMP, SEAGER, SIMS, KNEE, BOX - Wiltshire

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #896 on: Sunday 12 June 05 23:47 BST (UK) »
Could be the connection to the Duncan Dunbar fleet:
John dunbar and Margaret Hoyes had:
Margaret Dunbar chr 30 Jan 1752 Forres
duncan dunbar 17 May 1764 Forres

There are 13 other children!

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TOLHURST - Hastings  OSBORN - East Sussex
GOLDSACK - Hastings & Kent
HAINES - IOW, Portsmouth  ALEXANDRE - Guernsey
CLARKE - Portsmouth  BREEDON - Portsmouth, Nottinghamshire
HORNBY,  KING,  WILKENS,  GOODAIR  - all London
GRAHAM - Portsmouth, briefly Canada, Fife
MCINTOCH, STEWART, DUNSYRE, SIM, BONAR, RUSSELL, TRAIL - Fife
HUGHES - Glamorgan, Herefordshire   NICHOLAS - Breconshire
ROSE, KEMP, SEAGER, SIMS, KNEE, BOX - Wiltshire

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #897 on: Monday 13 June 05 00:05 BST (UK) »
From http://www.dunbarfamilysociety.org.uk/DATA/data.html

Duncan Dunbar (1764-1825) set up business in London, and later was joined by his son Duncan (1804 - 1862). Their business became very successful and they were owners of at least 75 ships - but no steamships - and son Duncan died a millionaire

Looks like we've got the right connection to the Dunbar fleet.  Osbert Forsyth (father in law to James Molison who was half brother to our Alexander Strachan Molison) was the cousin to the second Duncan Dunbar who built up the fleet.  somewhere i've read that Duncan Dunbar died without issue and something to do with the terms of the will that to inherit anything family had to keep Dunbar in the name.

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TOLHURST - Hastings  OSBORN - East Sussex
GOLDSACK - Hastings & Kent
HAINES - IOW, Portsmouth  ALEXANDRE - Guernsey
CLARKE - Portsmouth  BREEDON - Portsmouth, Nottinghamshire
HORNBY,  KING,  WILKENS,  GOODAIR  - all London
GRAHAM - Portsmouth, briefly Canada, Fife
MCINTOCH, STEWART, DUNSYRE, SIM, BONAR, RUSSELL, TRAIL - Fife
HUGHES - Glamorgan, Herefordshire   NICHOLAS - Breconshire
ROSE, KEMP, SEAGER, SIMS, KNEE, BOX - Wiltshire

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #898 on: Monday 13 June 05 00:15 BST (UK) »
Duncan did have offspring.  I have a full descendancy for him from Michael.  Much of the info has come from the massive will he left.  I won't post the details as that would be an interesting family to follow but if anyone wants any info let me know.

At the end of this challenge it would be great to bring it all together on a webpage - I can add the detail then?

P ;D
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #899 on: Monday 13 June 05 00:25 BST (UK) »
Pam, if I'm going into Aberdeen library tomorrow is there anything left to find out re the Molisons and Davidsons or are most avenues covered by Michael's research?
Jo
TOLHURST - Hastings  OSBORN - East Sussex
GOLDSACK - Hastings & Kent
HAINES - IOW, Portsmouth  ALEXANDRE - Guernsey
CLARKE - Portsmouth  BREEDON - Portsmouth, Nottinghamshire
HORNBY,  KING,  WILKENS,  GOODAIR  - all London
GRAHAM - Portsmouth, briefly Canada, Fife
MCINTOCH, STEWART, DUNSYRE, SIM, BONAR, RUSSELL, TRAIL - Fife
HUGHES - Glamorgan, Herefordshire   NICHOLAS - Breconshire
ROSE, KEMP, SEAGER, SIMS, KNEE, BOX - Wiltshire