June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[MaryA]

BD I emailed John Robertson at Jumbrella but as yet no response.

I have been contacted by Sue (The Oracle) in response to EmilySiobahn's post on the London board for an 1851 look up.  She sent me a copy of the 1841 census for Bedford Row, Poplar/Bow area Folio 11 Page 10  for a George Robertson age 20, Merchant.  BUT on the top of the next page follows Margaret age 30 so I don't know how this would fit in.

Here are the two bits as the copy is terribly bad and I'm not sure I'm reading the writing properly, there seems to be two other people in the house, maybe somebody else can read it.  (Bits were bitmaps, which I changed to tiffs and they won't upload, I'll upload them if I can change them to something else)

I also have 1851 for the mysterious Colin and his family with relative John Dale (I'm sure we've had that name mentioned somewhere)

HO107 1555? can't find page and folio number on it
30 Coborn Street, South ?? Walford (maybe) Bow Tower Hamlets
Colin D Robertson Head M 27 Provision Merchant Middlesex Ratcliff
Elizabeth J Wife M 27  " "
George Son 1 " Bow
John C Dale Brother in Law Unm 29 Coal Factor Clerk  " Ratcliff
Harriett Smith Servant Unm 26 Devonshire Colebrook
Francis E Millington " " 23  Norfolk Lymm Regis

Although the first George matches "our" George born 1820 the presence of Margaret age 30 makes me doubt.  Sue is going to look again to see if she can find anything in 1851.

Mary

[MaryA]

I agree that our Allan shouldn't exist, but then we're working backwards from him and maybe Michael worked around him, so therefore Michael's information is wrong and ours is right and we should continue 

[MaryA]

OK try these from the 1841, transcription as to George's age and occupation apparently came from the index, but maybe we'd like to decide for ourselves.

[Burrow Digger]

Just got back home after choir rehearsal (yes, I do have other interests) and found the last 3 pages...

Perhaps I'm stupid, but I'm very disappointed, because I would have preferred to continue searching ourselves, and now there's nothing left to do...  I thought the whole point of the challenge was to build up a genealogy from scratch? 

BD - Post your Muir info if that's what everyone wants. 

Rambler

No you're right MR. I wont ask for the Muir file. We still need something to search for.

It might also be an idea to post a sticky about rules of the challenge. Something like the following - if anyone makes contact with someone who has information about the family being researched, then we cannot post their files, but just ask them to confirm whether or not a name or connection or other detail is correct. And find any brickwalls they may still have.  

The first challenge (in April) we did with Mr Bland (Abraham & Lionel I think)  actually worked out very well.

BD

[liverpool annie]

I think Jane Cribb and Esther Dixon

and I think maybe live-in help!!

Annie

[Boongie Pam]

Alright, I get the message  

I don't think it gives us that much actually.  Not that it isn't a great body of work.  It is confirming what we've done more than telling us an answer.  AND since it is Allan that is our subject it has thrown up a great puzzle.

Which Mary is his mam???

P

[liverpool annie]

Well my opinion is - that we still have plenty to do and when Pam posted that stuff - it was great to see that in some areas we were doing Ok 
and as we didn't have anybody who came forward to moderate us -  like that guy in April -
think about it - he gave a lot of info to get people back on track..... remember?

I think this will keep us more focused  - OK I'll amend that -  this will keep ME more focused 

Annie

PS  Look at it this way MR
it'll save on the frazzled nerves a bit -
'cos it's that much less for you to do 
And you do do a terrific job !!

[MaryA]

Annie, those names don't mean anything to our search do they? perhaps either lodgers or servants.

Jonathan looked up Colins family in the 1881 census on Page 20 when Elizabeth was a widow.

BD and MR I agree with what was previously proposed, that it is suggested to Sedona to read and maybe make a comment if we have gone seriously wrong, also of course if there is anywhere she was particularly stuck and we could concentrate on that bit.

Just in case it's overlooked the posting I made just before Pam's Novel, gave details of Charles girls all at schools, so please everybody keep a look out for Charles and Alice either deaths or emigrations.

I now have a Word document of the text of this thread so its searchable, if anybody would like a copy please email me.

Mary

[Keziahemm]

Did I see a Malcolm Robertson mentioned somewhere?

  Info. 1891 census  RG12/2924 Folio 61 page 9

         Jessie M Robertson  Mar  25   at home with parents.

Jessie Mary Barclay b liverpool c 1866 (daughter of John Barclay, Manager of Sugar Refiners, Liverpool) married Robert Malcolm Robertson Liverpool 1888.

They had a son Charles Malcolm Robertson b Toxteth 1890.

Hope this doesn't confuse things  


Susan