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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #540 on: Monday 06 June 05 21:05 BST (UK) »
Don't think there is a lot of Robertson info here.  But there are pages of cracking info on the voyages of ASM (as I shall call him)

Here's ASMs death details.

3 Feb 1878 ASM dies.  Was 76 when he died, fathering a daughter in his last year of life!  Buried at Nunhead cemetery in Sth. London in a family vault with his wife Sarah Ann Shores, son William James Molison, and others. Grave 15029.

PS if it is in blue it is lifted directly from Michael's research.

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UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #541 on: Monday 06 June 05 21:07 BST (UK) »
From ASM's Will...

Alexander Strachan Molison of Morant Cottage, Blackheath Rd, Greenwich, Kent, Esq, died 1 October 1878. 

Probate of the will granted 19 October 1878 for an estate under 4000 pounds.

...'Appoints my son-in-law Rev. Thomas Vial Cornell of Sussex as Executor. 

Will goes on to mention 'my wife Sarah Ann Molison, my daughters Augusta Jane Robertson, the widow of John Robertson.

Mary Marshall Robertson, widow of James Robertson

Eliza Wilson Cornell wife of Rev. Thomas Vial Cornell, my son Duncan Dunbar Molison who married Justina Louisa Shores, my daughter Louisa Helen Molison, my son William James Molison.'


This helps place the deaths of the Robertson boys a bit.

P ;D
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #542 on: Monday 06 June 05 21:11 BST (UK) »
From the will of Sarah Ann Molison ... 

The details are ...

'Sarah Ann Shores of Fairlawn Elgin Road in the County of Surrey, widow, formerly of 79 Bensham Manor Road, Thornton Heath, Surrey died on the 25th day of November 1908 at Fairlawn aforesaid, and Probate being granted to William James Molison of Fairlawn aforesaid, stockbroker, son of ASM and one of the executors.

Dated 8 January 1909.  Value of estate 245 pounds and ninepence, value of personal estate 141 pounds fifteen shillings and ninepence.


More About SARAH ANN SHORES:
Burial: Nunhead Cemetery, London
Fact 1: 28 Nov 1908, INTERRED GRAVE 15029, NUNHEAD CEMETERY, LONDON


This is posted for completeness,

I feel such a fraud that I'm not finding any of this under my own endeavours!

Pam
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #543 on: Monday 06 June 05 21:14 BST (UK) »
Don't worry, take the credit, you made the contact, its just such lovely stuff.
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from The National Archives <br />Lunt (Wavertree/West Derby), Forshaw (West Derby), Richardson (Knowsley), Kent (Cheshire), <br />Cain (Hertfordshire, London), Larkins (Bedfordshire, London), Nunn (London), Lenton, Hillyard (Bedfordshire), <br />Parle, Lambert, Furlong, Wafer (Wexford)<br />Special separate interest in Longford (Blackrock, Dublin)


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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #544 on: Monday 06 June 05 21:17 BST (UK) »
Children of ALEXANDER MOLISON and AUGUSTA MARSHALL are:

2. i.   AUGUSTA JANE MOLISON, b. 15 Sep 1833, STEPNEY ST. DUNSTAN, LONDON; d. Aft. 1881.

    ii.   ALEXANDER JOSEPH MOLISON, b. 03 Jul 1836, STEPNEY, LONDON; d. 23 Feb 1867, BOMBAY, INDIA; m. SUSAN CATHARINE ROTHWELL, 23 May 1865, MALEW, ISLE OF MAN, ENGLAND; b. 08 Sep 1839, Castletown, Isle of Man.

From the IGI...

SUSAN CATHARINE ROTHWELL:
 Susannah Catherine ROTHWELL
Christening:  8 Sep 1839
Saint Marys, Castletown, Isle Of Man, England
Parents:
Father:  John ROTHWELL
Mother:  Elizabeth Isabella

Elizabeth Isabella LOONEY  
 Marriage:  11 Sep 1832  
  Malew, Isle Of Man, England  


John Thomas Rothwell chr 4 Jan 1857  
  Saint Barnabas, Douglas, Isle Of Man, England  
 
Parents:
 Father:  James ROTHWELL  
 Mother:  Elizabeth  Isabella LOONEY  
 Marriage:  21 Dec 1850  to John Rothwell
Maughold, Isle Of Man, England  


Next post is "our" lot - but it is very different and a bit worrying!

Pam
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UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #545 on: Monday 06 June 05 21:40 BST (UK) »
Michael has a completely different theory on Mary...

iii.   MARY JEAN MARSHALL MOLISON, b. 07 Oct 1838, St DUNSTAN, STEPNEY; d. Aft. 1881; m. JAMES ROBERTSON; b. Abt. 1835, Wapping, Middlesex, England; d. Abt. 1877.

Notes for MARY JEAN MARSHALL MOLISON:
From the 1881 census comes the following entries.  As Mary's husband had died, there is the suspicion she married again, and these entries must be them.  Reason is Dunbars still had a substantial wine and spirit business and a great deal of continuity in employees. Lee was an employee.

Mary ROBERTSON Household
    Birth Year <1838> 
    Birthplace London, Middlesex, England 
    Age 43 
    Occupation   
    Marital Status M <Married> 
    Head of Household Aubrey LEE
    Relation Wife 
    Dwelling 10 Holden Ter
    Census Place London, Middlesex, England 
   

She was living with;

Aubrey LEE Household
    Birth Year <1852> 
    Birthplace Fulham, Middlesex, England 
    Age 29 
    Occupation Wine Merchants Manager 
    Marital Status U <Unmarried> 
    Head of Household Aubrey LEE
    Relation Manager (Head) 
    Dwelling 10 Holden Ter
    Census Place London, Middlesex, England 
   
Household:
 
 Aubrey LEE   Manager (Head)   U   Male   29   Fulham, Middlesex, England   Wine Merchants Manager     
 Joseph SMELLWOOD   Servt   U   Male   20   Birmingham, Warwick, England   Inn Merchants Assistant     
 Mary ROBERTSON   Wife   M   Female   43   London, Middlesex, England       
 Eliza COLLIER   Serv   U   Female   22   Nottinghill, Middlesex, England   General Servant     

Notes for JAMES ROBERTSON:
He died before his father in law in 1878. 

In the notes of Leila Shores she mentions Mary Robertson and David Robertson.  Does not say if they were husband and wife, or brother and sister.  David was a Mincing Lane tea merchant and an artist.  Pulbrook, Robertson and Co, 2 Mincing Lane, London, E.C.,

They had a son amongst other children.  The son Malcolm went to India in the Indian Civil Service, and is said to have been killed in France in the 1914-1918 war.

A difficult family to follow up as there is no record in the Commonwealth War Graves Commission for a Robertson that even remotely fits Malcolm as having been killed in France.
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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Re: June 2005 RootsChat Challenge
« Reply #546 on: Monday 06 June 05 21:43 BST (UK) »
And the children continue...

iv.   ALEXANDER MOLISON, b. 09 Aug 1841.

Notes for ALEXANDER MOLISON:
1871 Deaf And Dumb Institute Swansea

Alexander MOLISON head unm 31 m master of school Scotland


v.   DUNCAN DUNBAR MOLISON, b. 04 Nov 1845, 9 WARKWORTH TCE, LIMEHOUSE, LONDON, ENGLAND; d. Aft. 1912; m. JUSTINA LOUISA SHORES, 18 Jul 1872, PARISH CHURCH, STEPNEY, LONDON, ENGLAND; b. 1849, Worthing, Sussex, England; d. 1932.

Notes for DUNCAN DUNBAR MOLISON:
A registered Captain with Lloyds  Certificate no. 29.670 first issued London 1869.

At time of marriage both lived in Stepney, he was described as a Master Mariner, and she as a spinster

At time of death of his father is shown as witness to the death and DDM living at 186 Brixton Rd, London.

The story is that they eloped because she was under age.  However she was 23 when they married. 

One of the witnesses on the Certificate Ithiel Price is unknown, but the other certainly is a long serving member of the ASM household- Maria Milton Benoist. 

Maria was the witness to the death in 1851 of John Strachan Molison, Duncan's brother.  She lived at 6 Warkworth Terrace, Limehouse, which was the Molison home.  They were perhaps estranged from their parents.  No issue of the marriage.
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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« Reply #547 on: Monday 06 June 05 21:47 BST (UK) »
vi.   ELIZA WILSON MOLISON, b. 21 Sep 1848, St Dunstan, Stepney; d. Aft. 1881; m. THOMAS VIAL CORNELL, REV, Bef. 1878; b. 1851, Wethersfield, Essex, England; d. Aft. 1881.

Notes for ELIZA WILSON MOLISON:
The Wilson is a family name.  Her aunt married a Wilson.  The family connection was quite strong, as Robert James Molison put his address at a Dr. Wilson in Huntley Scotland when he was at University in Aberdeen.




vii.   JOHN STRACHAN MOLISON, b. Oct 1850, 6 Warkworth Terrace, Limehouse, London; d. 08 Aug 1851, 6 Warkworth Tce, Limehouse, London.

Notes for JOHN STRACHAN MOLISON:
Died at 6 Warkworth Terrace, Limehouse of Hydroencephalus which he had had for 15 days. Witness and present at the death was A.M Benoist who gave her address as 6 Warkworth Terrace, Limehouse.

More About JOHN STRACHAN MOLISON:
Cause of Death: HYDROENCEPHALUS
Medical Information: 10 MONTHS OLD.




Children of ALEXANDER MOLISON and SARAH SHORES are:

3.   viii.   WILLIAM JAMES4 MOLISON, b. 1871; d. 1958, 'STANWAY' PURLEY OAKS ROAD, SANDERSTEAD, SURREY.

   ix.   LOUISA HELEN MOLISON, b. 1878; d. 1942
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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« Reply #548 on: Monday 06 June 05 21:51 BST (UK) »
Generation No. 2

2.  AUGUSTA JANE MOLISON  was born 15 Sep 1833 in STEPNEY ST. DUNSTAN, LONDON, and died Aft. 1881.  She met JOHN ROBERTSON 16 Mar 1858 in PARISH CHURCH, BROADWATER by WORTHING, SUSSEX, ENGLAND, son of GEORGE ROBERTSON.  He was born 1835 in Wapping, Middlesex, England, and died Bef. 01 Oct 1878.

Notes for AUGUSTA JANE MOLISON:
Lived in Worthing at the time of her marriage.  A spinster.  Her husband was from Hampstead, Middlesex.  The witnesses were both Robertson by name and likely to be her sister in law Janet, and her brother in law.

George ROBERTSON   Head   W   Male   61   Wapping, Middlesex, England   Ship Chandler     
 Charles M. ROBERTSON   Son   U   Male   25   Limehouse, Middlesex, England   Ship Chandler     
 Augusta J. ROBERTSON   Sister In Law   W   Female   47   Stepney, Middlesex, England       
 Augusta ROBERTSON   Niece   U   Female   20   Bromley, Middlesex, England       
 Mary D. ROBERTSON   Niece   U   Female   16   Bromley, Middlesex, England   Scholar     
 Margaret ROBERTSON   Niece   U   Female   4   Camberwell, Surrey, England       

HIGH PARK STREET,  PARKHILL ROAD and SOUTH HILL ROAD 8
High Park was the highest point in  Toxteth Park and, in the l8th  century, because of its salubrity,  became a popular summer resort for  Liverpool folk. The area was often  referred to as `the Richmond of the  Mersey'. Parkhill and South Hill are  names relating to High Park.



I've included the bits we already have i.e. the census for familiarity.

P
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Dumfrieshire: Fallen, Fallon, Carruthers, Scott, Farish, Aitchison, Green, Ryecroft, Thomson, Stewart
Midlothian: Linn/d, Aitken, Martin
North Wales: Robins(on), Hughes, Parry, Jones
Cumberland: Lowther, Young, Steward, Miller
Somerset: Palmer, Cork, Greedy, Clothier

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