June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[Joanna Tolhurst]

just found the birth registration details of a James Robinson in 1843 Hackney district, so don't think the James Robinson in 1861 is our James Robertson.
Jo

[liverpool annie]

Blimey look what I just found......

1881

1. Name Mary M. ROBERTSON
Relationship Head
Condition W
Gender F
Age 60
Occupation Living On Income Investment In Shipping
Birthplace Canada
Address 26 Sussex Rd, North Meols, Lancashire, England

2. Name Eleanor ROBERTSON
Relationship Daur
Condition U
Gender F
Age 23
Occupation Annuitant
Birthplace Canada
Address 26 Sussex Rd, North Meols, Lancashire, England


3. Name Elizabeth M. STYNOUT
Relationship Neice
Condition U
Gender F
Age 19
Occupation Annuitant
Birthplace Canada
Address 26 Sussex Rd, North Meols, Lancashire, England


4. Name Daniel ROBERTSON
Relationship Son
Condition U
Gender M
Age 18
Occupation Student
Birthplace Canada
Address 26 Sussex Rd, North Meols, Lancashire, England


5. Name John B. ROBERTSON
Relationship Son
Condition U
Gender M
Age 16
Occupation Scholar
Birthplace Canada
Address 26 Sussex Rd, North Meols, Lancashire, England

6. Name Isabelle STOREY
Relationship Serv
Condition U
Gender F
Age 23
Occupation Cook
Birthplace Carlisle, Westmorland, England
Address 26 Sussex Rd, North Meols, Lancashire, England


7. Name Eleanor CROWTHER
Relationship Serv
Condition U
Gender F
Age 18
Occupation House Maid
Birthplace Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Address 26 Sussex Rd, North Meols, Lancashire, England

Annie

[MaryA]

No No No No No Noooooooooooooo Please don't tell me they moved the Wirral into Southport!!! and these are born Canada!  I wonder how many countries we'll get to before we finish this? 

Nice of them to tell us where she got her money from.

[liverpool annie]

Here's 1881 Surrey

1. Name James ROBERTSON
Relationship Head
Condition M
Gender M
Age 40
Occupation House Decorator
Birthplace Scotland
Address Woodland Rd 2 Rose Cott, Lambeth, Surrey, England

2. Name Martha ROBERTSON
Relationship Wife
Condition M
Gender F
Age 40
Occupation House Decorator Wife
Birthplace London Pimlico , London, Middlesex, England
Address Woodland Rd 2 Rose Cott, Lambeth, Surrey, England

3. Name William J. ROBERTSON
Relationship Son
Condition U
Gender M
Age 14
Occupation Scholar
Birthplace Croydon
Address Woodland Rd 2 Rose Cott, Lambeth, Surrey, England

4. Name Mary M. M. ROBERTSON
Relationship Dau
Condition U
Gender F
Age 12
Occupation Scholar
Birthplace Croydon
Address Woodland Rd 2 Rose Cott, Lambeth, Surrey, England

5. Name Helen S. ROBERTSON
Relationship Dau
Condition U
Gender F
Age 7
Occupation Scholar
Birthplace Croydon
Address Woodland Rd 2 Rose Cott, Lambeth, Surrey, England


Here's another James  with a daughter Mary M

Annie

[Burrow Digger]

I think everyone is just grasping at straws - with all this jumping  onto every Robertson who looks right.

We really have to do this in a very methodical and correct manner. That means maybe getting one certificate. We are still looking for James/John/George's parents right? 

And we do have another 25 days to go.  There is NO Hurry - at least not right now. 

Burrow Digger

[MaryA]

Annie's just having fun, most things we have got have been linked up.  I'm not sure I'd be in favour of a certificate but if we decide to, just which one would you propose to get?  There could be any amount of James/John/George.  Run some details past us here BD.

[Burrow Digger]

grumble grumble waste of time and energy reading when its not related grumble grumble *muttering under my breath*   


Either a death certificate for one of them? Do we know any of their death dates? The death certificate might give a fathers name if it was late enough.  I know 1939 didnt give parents names.  But the early 1900s should.

Or we could ask for a lookup for the OPR since we have birth dates.

Bd

[CatOne]

Totally losing track here.....was Claud still missing in 1871 or has that one been solved??

Sorry if he was founf 10 pages back!!

[MaryA]

BD I get the feeling you aren't in England.  Death certificates don't give father's names here, at least the last one I have didn't and that was only 5 years ago, nor does one I have dated 1877.  It's not necessarily a family member who registers the death either.  Mostly fathers die before their children so I'm not sure that works.

We would need an exact reference to get a birth certificate from the GRO, unless we knew for certain at least one of the parents, if not both so they could use it as a criteria and if we asked for that sort of search it's a more expensive certificate.  Or do we have exact dates for James/John/George? or maybe even Colin?

I think its the principle of getting a certificate that I'm not sure about, I thought the big challenge was to use all resources we possibly could but without getting a certificate? maybe I'm wrong on that, has one ever been used in the previous challenges?

I wouldn't be too sure that we have exhausted all avenues before a certificate is desparate.  There are still two censuses which haven't been checked at all and gaps which I've been trying to find in the hopes that maybe a parent was living with the family and give us a clue that way.

grumble away to yourself but I still think Annie's having fun and if so its only her own time she's wasting