June 2005 RootsChat Challenge

[Lesanne]

  Just having a look at other explosions, after the "sample" in Australia, found an accidental ship collision that blew up Halifax. 1917.
              In the book of remembrance is Elizabeth Robertson aged 5, father Duncan.

   May not be "ours" but of possible interest so I've posted it.

  http://museum.gov.ns.ca/mma/AtoZ/HalExpl.html

                                             Lesanne.

[Paul E]

Hi Cat

Thre's an extracted record for a David McIver, with the following details:

Born 24 August 1840   
Baptised: 21 Nov 1840   at Oldham Street Presbyterian, Liverpool, Lancashire, England
 
Parents:
Father:  CHARLES MC IVIER 
Mother:  MARY ANN MORRISON 

(The baptismal year is one out from yours, but maybe one or another is a mistranscription).

A submited record shows a marriage of David to Annie RANKIN in 1863 in Bromborough, Wirral.

A separate submitted record has the full birth, baptism, and marriage  details (with the baptismal year matching yours - 1841), adding a death on 1 September 1907 at Ambleside, Cumbria, and burial in Bromborugh, Wirral.

No siblings emerging on a batch search.

cheers

Paul

[Paul E]

Mary Ann Morrison shown in a submitted record on IGI as b 3 January 1818  Glasgow, Lanark,  d 14 March 1901 (just missed the cenus )

Married 23 October 1839   (Of Everton, West Derby, Lancashire, England) to Charles MacIver.

 

[CatOne]

Hi Paul,

Just found the marriage of Charles McIver and Mary Ann Morrison, m. Everton, West Derby 23/10/1839. This is the Charles McIver, Shipowner on the 1861 posted earlier. Found 10 children too, for him!!! Mary Ann 1847, Elizabeth 1849 and William 1856 were born Rothesay, Bute. David 1840, Jane and John 1848, Charles 1850, Henry 1852, James 1853 and Edward 1857 were born St Peters Liverpool.

His parents are listed as David McIver and Jane Boyd (Sister to Margaret McIver then!)

CatOne

SNAP Paul! 

[CatOne]

So while we're on this puzzle, how is Margaret McIver aunt to Eleanor Crouchley Robertson nee Pendlebury? Or is she aunt to WWR? Not found that connection yet.......

[Paul E]

Thought for a moment that we were getting a little plebian, with an Annie Rankin appearing in the family.

Check out her family in 1861....8 servants, 8 visitors (including two from New Brunswick and one from Canada).  Father is Robert Rankin b1802 Scotland, Merchant and Shipowner, mother Ann, born New Brunswick, St Andrews.

Here's the full hit (all living in Bromborough, Wirral)
 
Elizabeth Benbow abt 1842  Montgomeryshire, Wales Servant   
Elizabeth Birch abt 1817  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Visitor     
Elizabeth Faber abt 1841  Shropshire, England Visitor     
Sampson Fell abt 1826  Yorkshire, England Butler 
Allan Graham abt 1831  Scotland Visitor 
Janet Hackney abt 1841  Scotland Visitor 
Jane Jones abt 1826  Montgomeryshire, Wales Servant 
Agnes Lawrie abt 1836  Scotland Servant 
Mary Lawson abt 1833  Scotland Servant 
Charlotte Mackay abt 1858  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Visitor   
Dunlop Mackay abt 1854  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Visitor   
Florence Mackay abt 1857  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Visitor     
Mary McGhie abt 1816  Scotland Servant 
Isabella McLaughlan abt 1841  Scotland Servant 
Ann Rankin abt 1812  New Brunswick, St Andrews Wife   
Ann Rankin abt 1842  Liverpool, Lancashire, England Daughter     
Robert Rankin abt 1802  Scotland Head     
Robert Rankin Jr. abt 1831 New Brunswick, Northampton Visitor     
Barbara Ritchie abt 1838  Canada Niece 
Mary Taylor abt 1845  Cheshire, England Servant 
 
Haven't we had a Mackie or Mackay?

cheers

Paul

[CatOne]

Only had a Charles Mackae/MacRae Robertson I think, son of George Robertson (sailmaker) and Mary Douglas. Dont think we found a family with that name.......yet...... ......

[Paul E]

Still not sure how we can link these MacIvers and those Robertsons to ours - but a gut feeling tells me they are related to some degree!

Paul

For what its worth, Robert Rankin Jnr is widowed by 1871, living in Toxteth, Liverpool (along with everyone else in this bleedin story!) and described as a Merchant Shipowner.  No children.

[CatOne]

I think so too.

Just been looking on the BVRI and found the children of  Elizabeth Davidson and William Robertson are -
Elisabeth 28/11/1792 Ardrossan
Archibald 06/08/1794 Greenock
Robert  29/07/1796 Greenock
William  04/09/1800  Greenock
Hamilton 02/01/1806 Greenock
Elisabeth 10/02/1808 chr. 21/02/1808 Greenock
Elisabeth (think this might be a duplicate of above because no birthdate, just chr. date of 21/02/1810)

Didn't one of our Robertsons married an Agnes Hamilton in the 1820's?

Still no nearer connecting this lot to our Robertsons though......will come back in morning and probably find its done 

G'Nite

ps. John Robertson married Betsey Morrison in 1819 - could this be Mary Ann Morrison's aunt? 20 years difference in marriage too much for them to be sisters I would have thought. So could be aunt/niece or cousins?.......