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New South Wales - Death - John Hanlon - Lookup please
« on: Wednesday 28 November 12 10:38 GMT (UK) »

I am looking for records of my GG John Hanlon/Hanlan/Hanlin.  I believe he was born in Ireland and came to Australia in the 1800s.  His daughter Catherine (also known as Kate Caroline) was born in Clifden, Ireland in about 1865 and so he would have come to Australia some time after that and before her marriage in 1889 (in Victoria). I have reason to believe that he lived in Hay, NSW. I also believe his wife's name was Mary.

I have found an entry in the NSW BDM which might be my GG grandfather.
5695/1900  HANLON  JOHN  Father - JEREMIAH  Mother ANNIE  Place of death - HAY   

Is someone able to look this up for me so that I can determine if it is my GG grandfather?  If so, I can then purchase the certificate.

Thank you.

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Re: New South Wales - Death - John Hanlon - Lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 11:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

Have you searched for your chap via the digitised newspapers site?  It is a real Treasure Trove  :)   
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

Do you know the names of his parents?  This information is often found on NSW passenger lists especially if the passengers arrived as Assisted Passengers via Emigration Schemes of the middle to late 19thC ?   
http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx  Use this option to search via surname and then if you spot a possible arrival, make a note of the name of the ship and the year of arrival and then search on this link for images of the passenger list:
http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/state-archives/guides-and-finding-aids/nrs-lists/nrs-5316
Another website to try : http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/

Why am I suggesting those links?   Well, on death certs in several of the Australian States, the length of time in the colonies is noted. 

NSW death certs contain a great deal of information, as they come in three parts .... There's the section that contains the family history info, and of course that is often confusing as the informant is often a grieving family member, relying on their own recollections of names of parents of the deceased, marriage/s, spouse names, children's names and ages and quite a deal more.   Then there's the section from the medico, giving the cause of death, duration of illness etc.   Then there's the section from the funeral director giving the interment info, clergy/denomination, cemetery etc (burial or cremation).   So, that info is often helpful in leading to any headstone inscriptions etc.

Before you consider purchasing a NSW BDM death cert, may I suggest you consider the cheaper alternative?  I am suggesting that you consider an Official Transcription from one of the several official transcription agents appointed by NSW BDM. 

Here's the RChat link to help explain  ;D
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,300394.0.html

PS, the NSW BDM online index shows the BDM district where the death was registered.  That is not always the same as the actual place of death.   Hay District includes the township of Hay, but also includes quite a large area in that general location  :) .   

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Re: New South Wales - Death - John Hanlon - Lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 11:04 GMT (UK) »
You have to purchase the certificate to find further information.  In NSW you can purchase transcriptions which are emailed.
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/howToTraceYouFamTree.htm#TranscriptionAgent

Unfortunately his burial record at the Hay Cemetery does not give his age.  Interred 6 Apr 1900  Roman Catholic  Row H Plot 29.

Interred at the same location
9458/1925    
HANLON John
Father John  Mother Mary
District Hay  

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Re: New South Wales - Death - John Hanlon - Lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 11:18 GMT (UK) »
When I search my resource all the HANLON's burials at Hay give the same location however if I search using HANLON they are now shown as being in the Church of England Section. Row K Grave 55 and it is unmarked.  Mary died in 1905.  You may like to search the bdm's for her registration.

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Re: New South Wales - Death - John Hanlon - Lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Perhaps contact this group.  Local information is invaluable and usually not available online.

http://users.tpg.com.au/hayhist/

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Re: New South Wales - Death - John Hanlon - Lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Friday 30 November 12 10:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you all.  I have order 3 Hanlon certs by the transcription service and will see what eventuates.  I appreciate your assistance.