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Re: 1861 Ontario Census Lookup
« Reply #9 on: Monday 20 January 14 21:30 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for responding.  Yes, that's right: Gardner Edwin Johnson married Retta Bunting on 23 Apr 1890 in Huron County, Michigan.

I've seen Edwin G.'s marriage record, where he is recorded as Edwin George Johnston -- my best guess is transcription error.  Unfortunately, I cannot find a primary record, other than family papers, showing his middle name as Gardner.  He just appears as 'Edwin Johnson' on his death certificate, and 'Edwin G.' in his obituary and other records.

Edwin was married twice: The first marriage was to Evelyn Davis, on 13 Nov 1861 in Oakland County, Michigan.  The 2 children from this marriage were Gardner Edwin (married Retta Bunting), and Frances Evelyn (married Caleb Richardson 27 Jul 1887, Gore, Huron, MI).  Caleb was Elizabeth Richardson's brother.  Evelyn (Davis) Johnson died on 14 Mar 1878.

Edwin married (second) Elizabeth Richardson, daughter of George H. Richardson and Harriet Carey, on 13 Dec 1878, Gore, Huron, Michigan. They had 7 children, including my grandmother, Harriet Carey Johnson (she later changed her name to Hallie).

With regard to the family of Philip Carey and Sarah Hodges, I'm confused about Annie.  She appears in Philip's household in the 1871 Census, age 5, which would put her dob about 1866.  However, her marriage record and subsequent census records indicate that she was born in 1873.  The 1911 census says August 1873.  Two different children?  That pesky 1881 census that no one can find might help with that question!

I have so far been unsuccessful in finding a record of Mary Gold's birth or parents in the parish records available online.  I have also tried through the Petworth Project group, but no luck so far.


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Re: 1861 Ontario Census Lookup
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 02:54 GMT (UK) »
JUST A COUPLE OF SMALL NOTES...YOU HAVE...CALEB RICHARDSON marrying Frances Evelyn Johnson...(Caleb's niece?)...Caleb married twice as I have him marrying a Theresa Ludlow, below is the link to the marriage registration, see line 141... (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11881-115944-39?cc=1452395&wc=M99B-CFM:281472198).
Edwin was married twice: The first marriage was to Evelyn Davis, on 13 Nov 1861 in Oakland County, Michigan.  The 2 children from this marriage were Gardner Edwin (married Retta Bunting), and Frances Evelyn (married Caleb Richardson 27 Jul 1887, Gore, Huron, MI).  Caleb was Elizabeth Richardson's brother.  Evelyn (Davis) Johnson died on 14 Mar 1878.
Also in the 1920 US census, Caleb & Theresa are living in Rubicon, Huron, Michigan, with a daughter, Ruth age 17...obviously not Theresa's...and one of Theresa's sons, Ervin age 9.



As for Annie Carey's birth...on her grave marker at the Union Cemetery in St. Thomas Ontario...it has the dates....1865 to 1941...her husband, William John Cook dates are 1874 to 1950. William John Cook was my grandfathers brother.

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Re: 1861 Ontario Census Lookup
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 15:31 GMT (UK) »
Frances E. Johnson was Caleb's niece in that she was his sister's husband's daughter (by a previous marriage), so she was not a blood relation.  Their marriage record can be found on FamilySearch (source below).  After Fannie's 1917 death, Caleb married Theresa Ludlow.  Ruth Richardson is the daughter of Caleb and Fannie.  Ruth married Winter Cooper 27 Aug 1924 in Detroit, Wayne, Michigan.

"Michigan, Marriages, 1868-1925," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NQ7R-MJY : accessed 21 Jan 2014), Caleb Richardson and Fannie E. Johnson, 27 Jul 1886.

Thank you for helping with Annie Carey's information.  I hate it when people disappear!

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Re: 1861 Ontario Census Lookup
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 20:30 GMT (UK) »
I have question that maybe someone in the Carey line can help with.  Philip Carey's 1906 obituary says that he is survived by 3 daughters: Mrs. W.J. Cook of St. Thomas, Mrs. L. Hillman of Winnipeg, and Mrs. H. Nutt of St. Marys.  Mrs. W.J. Cook would be Annie; Mrs. H. Nutt would be Lily Susan, so I guess that leaves Lucy, however I have not found any records of Lucy associated with anyone named Hillman.  Later I show her married to Charles F. Chantler, but it looks like that took place sometime between 1910 and 1920.  Lucy appears in California in the 1910 census as Lou H. Carey - maybe the H is for Hillman?  Seems like an odd coincidence that L. Hillman is also Philip's mother.

Any light you can shed would be most welcome!


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Re: 1861 Ontario Census Lookup
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 23:03 GMT (UK) »
I don't have a copy of Philips obit...(can you spare a copy of it)...yes...Mrs. W. J. Cook is Annie...
Lucy Margaret Carey did marry Charles F Chantler, he was born 1867 in Minnesota and the lived and died in California, she in 1948 and he in 1938. I haven't found any children of theirs yet...I don't have access to the U.S. census.
Lily Susan Carey married Horace G. Nutt in 1893.
Sarah Carey married Martin Nutt in 1857. (Horace G. was Martin's son)
Yes, Lucy Hillman was Philips mothers name...MAIDEN NAME....before she married Stephen Carey.
So...as for this Mrs. L. Hillman in Winnipeg...I have no clue...except...Philip did have a daughter Louise that I haven't found a marriage for...could be her...the L. could be the husbands first initial.
If you can spare a copy of Philips obit...and if you find a marriage for Louise Carey, let me know...



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Re: 1861 Ontario Census Lookup
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 00:17 GMT (UK) »
I think Lucy and Louise are the same person. Lucy went by Lou on a number of census so it is possible that on the 1901 Canada census they gave her name as Lou but the enumerator assumed it was Louise. The Find A Grave entry for Lucy Chantler nee Carey gives her date of birth as 4 Oct 1872 while the 1901 census has Louise's birth date as 4 Oct 1873 (the birth year on the census are sometimes out a year when the person's birthday was after the date of the census).

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: 1861 Ontario Census Lookup
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 03:44 GMT (UK) »
Yeh....never thought of that...a possibility
thanks

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Re: 1861 Ontario Census Lookup
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 22 January 14 15:05 GMT (UK) »
Yes, I've attached Philip's obit.  It's also in the Petworth Emigration Project group on Facebook (https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/s403x403/947274_340613376042051_390358422_n.jpg ).

I agree that Lou and Lucy are the same person.  She appears as Lou  or Lou H. in the 1910, 1920 and 1930 census records, and her death records show her as Lucy Margaret Chantler (Carey) daughter of Philip Carey and Sarah Hodges.

I have a marriage date of 11 Sep 1911 for Lou/Lucy and Charles Chantler.