Dalgarno of Aberdeen

[francestogneri]

OK, so the above Dalgarno search failed.  I have taken a membership offer for Ancestry but any promising leads failed to produce reliable results and I can spot errors in some trees I have checked.  Sources appear to be other Ancestry treet.

There are lots of John Dalgarno's in and around Aberdeen.  I have located John who was a shoemaker in the 1841 and 1851 census for the village of Deer/Old Deer).  He is probably my shoemaker, but I stumbled on unexpected information:

In my tree there is a child named Elisabeth Blackhall Kitson Mcgregor, born 1868.  I have found a birth in 1847 (Aberdeen St Nicholas) for Elisabeth Blackhall Kitson.  This seems to be some coincidence! I think mine was named for this one.  Her parents were Henry Kitson (a seaman) and Eliza Dalgarno. Eliza/Elizabeth died in 1882 at Banff.  Unfortunately her parents were not known by her children with who she was living at her death.  Her father is named as ---- Dalgarno, shoemaker.

I am unable to find further information but I need to connect John with a family containing a William Dalgarno who married Margaret Runciman in Aberdeen and had a child Jean Dalgarno in 1799.

Can anyone see a way forward??

Frances

[loobylooayr]

Hi Frances,
Checking out Family Search I found 4 children to a Henry Kitson and Eliza Dalgarno all at Saint Nicholas, Aberdeen.
Henry Ketson (spelling as online)  chr. 10 Feb 1842
Isabella Dalgarno Ketson( ")         chr. 23 Nov 1840
Elizabeth Kitson                          chr. 11 Jan 1845
Hellen Blackhall Kitson                  b.7 Dec 1847  chr.21 Dec 1847

Henry Kitson and Elizabeth Dalgardno (spelling as online) married 13 Sep 1839 at Old Machar, Aberdeen.

Elizabeth Dalgarno could not have been the daughter of the John Dalgarno shoemaker whom you discovered on 1841 and 1851 Census His age on 1841 is recorded as 25 (I can't find him on 1851 ). She is old enough to marry 2 years earlier in 1839.

It's proving to be really hard to link all these Dalgarnos together!!

[francestogneri]

Hi Looby
Yes, that's the stage I have reached.  It was when I saw the middle names of the children I thought - assuming the one is named after the other - the two families must have been close.  Henry Kitson died after 1851 and Elizabeth moved to Banff to live with family.  I had hoped I could come around in a circle and 'sneak up' on John from a different angle.

I think John in Old deer might still be my shoemaker but if so, there must be another one around whose birth is in the correct time frame.  I have checked the trades Burgess records and apprentice register for John but he does not appear.  These are both online but they seem to only cover Aberdeen city.  I have other ancestors in both books.

There appear to be Dalgarno strongholds at Slains (still a possible family), Old/New Deer, Peterhead and Longside.  All are within a reasonable distance of Aberdeen.  When I traced Elizabeth's death after 1855 I thought I had it.  Imagine my disbelief when I saw the parent information missing  .

By the way, my friend Carole searching for her missing grandfather Scott in the Borders found not only him but family she knew nothing about.  I know you were trying to help her.

Frances

[loobylooayr]

Hi Frances,
Oh yes Carole with the Scott/Hay/Hogg dilemma! It's great she's having a family get together soon

Back to your Kitson family (or perhaps not your Kitson family)....Isabella Dalgarno Kitson is their first daughter ....so I would not be the least surprised if Eliza Dalgarno's mother was called Isabella Dalgarno. Incidentally I couldn't find the Kitsons on the 1841

Also on 1841 Census there is a family of Dalgarnos living at Scroghill ,Old Deer, Aberdeen
John DALGARNO                    40    Farmer
Agnes "                                 50
Thomas "                               15
Barbara "                               12
Barbara HARRIS                       8   Female Servant

In the previous household is a Barbara Dalgarno   age 70 a Stocking Weaver. All were born in Aberdeenshire.

The name Harris caught my eye as you had a Barbara Dalgarno marrying George Harris  in 1828. Could this be their daughter? Or is it just a coincidence?

Looby
 

[francestogneri]

Looby
Checked my info again - another point of interest!  My Helen B K McGregor was born 29 Aug 1868 in BANFF!  I could not understand this but I have the documentation.  Her parents were visiting the Kitson home!!  The address on the child's birth cert and Eliza's death cert are the same!!!  This probably explains the duplicate naming.

Re the Census:  I don't have these saved but I just looked them up again.  No 1841 Census.  1851 - 1881 only.  I will look into your Isabella theory.  By the way - I checked the Harris spouse connection.  I am certain the trees I looked at are not accurate.  Spouse Harris married a different Barbara, not my family.  I have visitors arriving tomorrow, so it will be a few days.

Frances

[francestogneri]

Does anyone out there have any fresh ideas?  Re the above - I have been round some graveyards in the Aberdeen area and noted any Dalgarnos appearing there but none seem to relate to mine.  I think they must all be in Aberdeen itself.

I found the stone for Barbara Dalgarno who married George Harris and with the information I tracked Barbara.  She is definately not the one on my tree who was born/baptised January 1801 to William Dalgarno and Margaret Runciman - https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBQ3-2BL.  Unfortunately I have found nothing else for her.

I have checked with Aberdeen Archives but they have no record on John Dalgarno, Shoemaker.

Frances

[hayleydoyle]

I am looking for the parentage of Andrew Dalgarno born 1730 ish in Longside. Married to Jannet Davidson in 1756 in Old Deer
Have not seen a baptism for him though other Dalgarnos with offspring around the same age

[francestogneri]

Hayley
Sorry, this is not good news for you.  Some time ago I searched for all Dalgarnos on FamilySearch then posted them into a spreadsheet to look for family groups. I found your Andrew and his spouse, also children Sylvester and Christen.  I did not find obvious parents for Andrew.  If you have already searched, I think the record(s) no longer exist.

I never did solve my John Dalgarno problem.  I think his records are missing.  I was able to follow the Kitson family but still can't 'fit' them into my tree.  So many Ancestry trees have conflicting people I don't know if the answers we seek will be found.  On the bright side, anything we can verify before 1800 has to be a bonus!

Frances

[Fogmoose]

There was an Alexander Dalgarno listed as a resident of the Buchan Combination Poorhouse in the 1881 census. Age 36, unmarried, occupation "Mason". I do believe he is the father of my GG Grandmother Jane Hutche(s)on's illegitimate son Alfred Dalgarno Hutcheson, b. 1881, in New Deer. Jane was  a resident of that same poorhouse/workhouse at that time, as was the infant Alfred. She had at least 3 other illegitimate children with different fathers!

I have not researched Alexander Dalgarno further as he is not a blood relation to me, but I would certainly be interested if perhaps he may be connected to some of your Dalgarnos? His birthplace is stated to be Fraserburgh.

Good luck!