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Re: Liverpool Pals
« Reply #9 on: Monday 19 November 12 22:13 GMT (UK) »
The 2nd Vol Bn KLR were forerunners of the Territorials who were formed in 1908. The IY was for Imperial Yeomanry which was part of the force that fought in the Boer War.

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Re: Liverpool Pals
« Reply #10 on: Monday 19 November 12 22:14 GMT (UK) »
The Liverpool Pals battalions wore the eagle and child badge, Lord Derby's crest and not the usual KLR horse.  Early volunteers did receive a silver badge, but would that show up in the photo?  Can you post the photo here?
One possibility is that both men signed up for the Pals but had to be transferred to other regiments, perhaps because of illness or injury before leaving UK.

Thanks, Ainslie,

As I wrote in the last message, just wonder whether the bigger cities were used to top up the smaller cities Regiments. The Borders seem to have been deployed fairly early in the war, and he has no Star awarded, so "Confused, Tasmania" may be a more accurate tag.

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Re: Liverpool Pals
« Reply #11 on: Monday 19 November 12 22:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks again, Ainslie,

So Robert James was already involved with the military before the outbreak, I thought he was part of the P.O. employees who joined up as Pals, Denbigh seems a bit far away, they had no car, and lived in the Egremont, Birkenhead and Aigburth, Liverpool areas. Still have no idea where his Brownburgh came from, questions you wish you'd asked when you were younger.

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Re: Liverpool Pals
« Reply #12 on: Monday 19 November 12 22:34 GMT (UK) »
In the early part of the war, when men volunteered, the odds were that they would join their local regiment. By 1916 men were being sent wherever there was greatest need and it was not uncommon for men to be transferred from one regiment to another either as part of a large group as they completed training or as individuals as they recovered from wounds or sickness.

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Re: Liverpool Pals
« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 November 12 23:20 GMT (UK) »
Just done a bit of analysis on the 331** number with Border Regiment.
Looking at Casualty records he COULD have served with 11th Batt Borders but its inconclusive.
However there are a number of lads who were Ex Liverpool Regiment annotated on the record so possibly they were all casualty replacements after the Battle Of The Somme most were 17/18 casualtys.

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Lowe(Lower Gornall-Castleford)
Blackburn (Castleford)
Sidwell(Ledsham)
Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

Researching all Great War soldiers from the Spen Valley of West Yorkshire Especially lads from the Cleckheaton Company of 1/4th West Riding Regiment.

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Re: Liverpool Pals
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 10:31 GMT (UK) »
hello mmm,

Where are the casualty records available? Both Regiments seem to have got a bit of a hammering at the Somme.

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Re: Liverpool Pals
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 17:14 GMT (UK) »
I have access to a database called Soldiers Died In Great War it gives you the ability to search by service number and regiments...It sometimes gives you patterns as certain blocks of numbers were allocated to certain battalions within a regiment.
It's not an exact science but does yield results.

SDGW is available on ancestry but you don't have the same functions
It gives places of residence,enlistment and birth.

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Lowe(Lower Gornall-Castleford)
Blackburn (Castleford)
Sidwell(Ledsham)
Fairburn(Hartshead)
Wood(Liversedge)
Tallon (Whittington Lancs/Hartshead West Yorkshire)

Researching all Great War soldiers from the Spen Valley of West Yorkshire Especially lads from the Cleckheaton Company of 1/4th West Riding Regiment.

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Re: Liverpool Pals
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 20 November 12 21:27 GMT (UK) »
Hello Ady,

Sounds like some very serious database,

Cheers Pete