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Re: 1871 look up please BURTON
« Reply #9 on: Friday 16 November 12 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Patrish - sorry to come back to you and not spotting it straightaway, but can you remember where 'Unstone' was on that census piece? i.e. which county? Sounds a bit like a made up name or a mis transcription ???
RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 16 November 12 17:59 GMT (UK) »
Did William give his fathers name as John when he married?  What was John's occupation?

2 census entries with grandparents always makes me suspicious - particularly when they have the same surname.

 
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 16 November 12 18:12 GMT (UK) »
I haven't seen his marriage cert, but despite him being iwth grandparents in 1871 and 1881, he does appear with his father John and his grandmother Ann in 1891. William's occupation was Wire drawer.  Ann Burton gives her pob as Bristol in 1891 and 1881, so looks to be the right set (even though the village being alive with Burtons!)
RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON

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« Reply #12 on: Friday 16 November 12 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Its  Unstone,  a civil parish or un parished area in the registration dist of Chesterfield, Derbyshire.

http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/chesterfield.html

I havent been able to find a marriage between a John Burton and a Lydia  :(
this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith.    West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs,   Essex  Barker,   Hampshire  Kill, Kent Spong,   U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley


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« Reply #13 on: Friday 16 November 12 18:32 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou patrish.   I've not found a marriage either - am currently trawling my paper copy of the 1841 for a potential young Lydia! :)
RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 16 November 12 18:44 GMT (UK) »
1881 has John Burton 43 b Alton - relative

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X3KS-H5L

Marital status on image is unmarried but has just been sort of "dittoed" by the enumerator from previous occupants status
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« Reply #15 on: Friday 16 November 12 19:03 GMT (UK) »
mmm... John did have a brother Thomas b 1831 which looks like him.  I haven't tracked Thomas beyond 1841 when he was in Alton, so can't confirm the link with this one living in Leigh, but I will.  Still leaves the mystery of the 'wife' Lydia from the 1871 doesn't it? ???
RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON

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« Reply #16 on: Friday 16 November 12 22:07 GMT (UK) »
It could be that they never legally married, it was more common than people think

I,ve searched Ancestry and the free BMD from 1857 (when John would be 20) up till 1871 (when it says married on the census ) :(
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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 17 November 12 09:51 GMT (UK) »
yes, you could be right patrish.  There's certainly something not quite 'normal' about this family.
RATCLIFFE, BARLOW, BERESFORD, BLOOR, BYATT, DAKIN, KENT, LEES, MORTON, NORCLIFFE, OAKS, OSBORNE, PARKS, RICHARDSON, ROBINSON, SORTON, WETTON, WARRINGTON, WATTS, WOOD, WOLVERSCROFT (all from the Staffordshire Moorlands) - and specific interest in anyone who at any time lived in or around the village of ALTON