Catherine Pinkerton b. 15 May 1861

[LindaGW]

Thank you all!  I am new to research in Ireland and this is so very helpful.
Gaffy, I've listed Robert and Catherine's children below and you will see that the Pinkerton names you found, Hugh, Jack and Margaret, seem to fit this family perfectly.  Also, this family has always used Jack as a nickname for John.  Can I ask you where you found this information about the Pinkertons?
Elwyn, thanks so much for the practical advice.  I would not have a clue otherwise of where to order these death records.  The family you found could well be connected to Catherine - certainly worth investigating.
Rathmore, thanks for the link to the Donegal resources site.  It looks very interesting, especially as Pinkerton doesn't seem to be all that common a name in Donegal.  I have already ordered and received the marriage certificate for Robert and Catherine (which resulted in me starting this thread  .   
Aghadowey, thanks for the information and the links.

Perhaps I should list what I know of Catherine and Robert's children.  This information has come from our known family history as well as from what I have been able to find on www.familysearch.org.

Robert Anderson, b. Strabane 24 Jan 1880 d. ? Wales
Margaret Elizabeth Anderson b. Strabane Jan-March 1882, married John McBurney, emigrated to Canada.
Kathleen Frances Anderson (birth record Fanny Catherine) b. Strabane Oct-Dec1883, d. Wales c1922
John James Anderson (birth record Hugh) b. Strabane 6 Oct 1885 d. 27 Oct 1952 Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
William Hugh Anderson b. Strabane 16 Dec 1887 d. 11 Aug 1918, Harbonnieres, France. (separate thread on William http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,597013.0.html)
Thomas Anderson b. Strabane Apr-Jun 1890, d. 2 Apr 1918, Salonika, Greece.

Thanks again, everyone for all your help.

Linda
 

[gaffy]

Gaffy, I've listed Robert and Catherine's children below and you will see that the Pinkerton names you found, Hugh, Jack and Margaret, seem to fit this family perfectly.  Also, this family has always used Jack as a nickname for John.  Can I ask you where you found this information about the Pinkertons?

Hi, I've sent you a personal message.

[aghadowey]

I know this topic is quite old but this weekend I've started researching the Anderson family from Strabane and noticed the Family Search tree with numerous errors.
Robert Anderson, a plumber, son of James Anderson & Ann Jane Martin, died of TB 17 Oct.1892 at Barrack St., Strabane.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1892/06019/4713710.pdf
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of Robert Anderson late of Strabane County Tyrone Plumber who died 17 October 1892 at same place were granted at Londonderry [26 Nov.1892] to Catherine Anderson of Strabane the Widow. Effects £100.
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Strabane/Deny_Road/1753939/ (Catherine- maternity nurse) Address is Derry Road.
Children found so far-
1. Robert Anderson (1880 Strabane-d.Wales), house painter
   https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1880/02885/2057352.pdf
   1911 Census- Llandrillo Yn Rhos, Colwyn Bay, Carnarvonshire, Wales: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VK-X9M?lang=en
2. Margaret Elizabeth “Maggie” Anderson (24 Oct.1881 Main St., Strabane-28 Mar.1966 Calgary, Alberta) m.(4 Apr.1905 at Derry COI Cathedral) John Alexander McBurney- family.
   https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1882/02794/2025661.pdf
3. Frances Catherine Anderson (28 Sept.1883 Meetinghouse St., Strabane) m.(24 Mar.1912 Willowfield COI, Belfast) John Frederick Shortt- family.
   https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1883/02713/1998761.pdf
   https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1911/09946/5615688.pdf (witness- Mollie Anderson)
4. John James Anderson (c1886 Strabane-22 Oct.1952) m. Rachel Duncan Kelly- family.
5. William Hugh Anderson (16 Dec.1887 Main St., Strabane-11 Aug.1918 France).
   https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1888/02527/1936411.pdf
   1911 Census- “Monmouth” Royal Navy at sea & in port: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7JQ-VCS?lang=en (William Hugh Anderson, 23, Co.Tyrone, single)
6. Thomas Anderson (11 Apr.1890 Main St., Strabane-2 Apr.1918 Salonika, Greece).
   https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1890/02430/1905018.pdf

One more possible child? Mary/Molly
Mary Francis Anderson (c1882 Co.Donegal-aft.1911).
1911- in household of Margaret McBurney, machinist (blouse making).
   https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Ormeau/Ogilvie_Street/215778/
In 1901 census she's not listed in the household of Catherine (Pinkerton) Anderson.
In 1912 a Mollie Anderson is witness to marriage of Frances Catherine Anderson.

Here's what the Family Search tree has about her-
https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/person/details/KHB9-57Q
Molly Anderson (c1881-1922) m.(c1898) Jack Buckle. In 1912 she signed her name as Mollie Anderson.
On the same page it lists her parents marriage in 1867 in Larne (they married 1879 in Stranorlar opposite end of Ireland)

I have also compiled quite a bit of information on the parents and siblings of Robert Anderson.

[LindaGW]

Thank you, aghadowey.  Lots of info about the Robert Anderson family!  Molly Anderson is a bit of a puzzle - I'll have to think about that and see how she might fit in.  You said you also had info about Robert Anderson's parents and siblings, which would be great to see. 

[aghadowey]

James Anderson (d.bef.1901), labourer, m.(1854 Douglas Presbyterian Church, Ardstraw Parish) Anne Jane Martin (c1841?1838?-1921 Derry)
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1854/09479/5435397.pdf (Berney, father- Robert Anderson; father- Thomas Martin)
1901- she with son John, 1911- with son William.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05096/4399886.pdf
Londonderry Sentinel, 19 Apr.1921: ANDERSON- April 17, 1921, at her son’s residence, 1, Ewing-street, Londonderry, Anne Jane Anderson, widow of the late James Anderson, Strabane. Her remains will be removed or interment in City Cemetery on ...
1. Robert (1) Anderson (c1856-17 Oct.1892 Barrack St., Strabane), plumber, m.(1879) Catherine Pinkerton.
2. James Martin (2) Anderson (c1861/c1852-5 July 1934 Belfast), carpenter, m.(1890) Rachel Carrigan.
3. ? Thomas (3) Anderson.
4. John (4) Anderson (bef.1864? Co. Tyrone-aft.1913), painter, m.(1892) Margaret A. Throne.
5. Elizabeth Anderson (25 Nov.1866 Lifford Rd., Strabane) m.(1893) John Dinsmore.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1866/03509/2290423.pdf
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1893/10615/5867376.pdf
6. William (5) Anderson (2 Apr.1869), baker, m.(1894) Annie Dinsmore.
7. Christopher (6) Anderson (15 Jan.1872 Lifford Rd., Strabane-aft.1931), carpenter, Canada, m.(1899 Armagh) Sarah Wilton.
8. Francis/Frank Anderson (22 July 1875 Strabane-3 Dec.1934 Derry), painter.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1875/03091/2133325.pdf
1901- with brother John. Buried Derry City Cemetery (no headstone)
Anderson Francis otherwise Frank of 1 Ewing Street Londonderry painter died 3 December 1934 Administration Londonderry 18 June [1936] to May Anderson spinster. Effects £16.

Frank died Dec.1934 and his obituary mentions a sister Mrs. Dinsmore living in Manchester & 4 living brothers in Belfast, Coleraine, Limavady, Canada.

A relative of yours in Canada, originally from Belfast, is interested in the family history so if you'd like to send me your email address by Personal Message I can pass it on to him if you'd like.

[shanreagh]

Just a thought. In my Irish family May/Mary and Mollie/Molly are short forms for each other. i notice that both names appear in the family.....perhaps different generations.

[aghadowey]

Just a thought. In my Irish family May/Mary and Mollie/Molly are short forms for each other. i notice that both names appear in the family.....perhaps different generations.

Indications are that Mary Francis and Mollie/Molly are the same person which is why I grouped them together. Both the census record for Mary Francis Anderson & the Mollie Anderson as a wedding witness indicates a relationship to the family of Robert Anderson & Catherine Pinkerton. The dubious family tree showing Molly Anderson as their daughter shows her as the approx. age of Mary Francis Anderson in 1911 census (c1881/1882). However, the age range doesn't fit with known children of Robert & Catherine (married Apr.1879)-
Robert (Jan.1880)
Margaret Elizabeth (Oct.1881)
Frances Catherine (Sept.1883)
John James (c1886)- birth registration not found yet
William Hugh (Dec.1887)
Thomas (Apr.1890)
Also note that 1911 says Mary Francis born in Co.Donegal (unlike siblings born Co.Tyrone) but mother Catherine born in Co.Donegal. It's possible that Catherine went home to have the child and the registration was overlooked.

LindaGW- I have, I think, found another son of James Anderson & Anne Jane Martin called James bapt.1860 who likely died young before another son called James was bapt. in 1862.

[Liam59]

on the family search site:- http://familysearch.org


Catherine Pinkerton married apr-jun 1879, Volume No. 2, Page 329, Digital folder 4179386, Robert Anderson has the same Digital folder 4179386

have a look on the Donegal Rescources site:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal
type in the Basic search box, Pinkerton

under heading_ First Raphoe Presbyterin Church, Raphoe Parish, Financial statement 1867-pew holders and stipend payers,
Alexendar, John Pinkerton and John Pinkerton Sen mentioned.

Their is also a Rev Alexandar Pinkerton mentioned,

Mr Alexander Pinkerton of Ramelton

Rev. Alexander Pinkerton had a residence in Carndonagh in Inishowen in the 1840s - 1860s. He is recorded as the Presbyterian minister at various marriages in the area at that time. His daughter was Bessie Cunningham Pinkerton, who was born c. 1863, lived in Carndonagh and died aged 13 in Belfast (Sydenham) on 9th January 1876.

[aghadowey]

The marriage of Robert Anderson and Catherine Pinkerton gives her father as John Pinkerton, labourer, so not likely to be connected to Rev. Pinkerton.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1879/11066/8048929.pdf