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Dee's Clegg/Lees Scavenger Hunt..Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Tuesday 13 November 12 10:42 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt and It's Dee's turn with a brick wall that's quite convoluted... Hoping you can help out.

Good Luck and Good Hunting

Barbara

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I seem to have hit some brick walls.
What I know is as follows….
Ann Lee of full age married Benjamin Clegg of full age on 27th June 1842 in the Doncaster Parish Church, York. Ann’s father was named as John Lee, horse keeper, while Benjamin had no father named. (Marriage certificate.)

Ann and Benjamin Clegg migrated to Tasmania in 1843 under the Bounty Scheme on the Elizabeth Jane. They arrived on 5th May 1843. Benjamin was listed as a farm servant of Doncaster who could read. In 1844 a daughter Susannah was born to the couple.

They didn’t stay in Tasmania long, as in 1846 the birth of a son, Benjamin, was registered to Ann Lee and Benjamin Clegg in South Australia. Benjamin Clegg senior’s occupation was listed as ploughman.

Then Ann Lee/Clegg had a child, Edward, in 1851 with the father named as Edward Tuckwell in the Noarlunga district. In 1869 she finally married Edward Tuckwell, after apparently living with him on and off over the years.  Between 1851 and 1869 she appears to have had more children in South Australia, but birth registrations are missing.

I do know she had Thomas Cleg(g) in 1858, father listed as Thomas Smithers Cleg. I’ve been told that some of the children chose to go by the name Tuckwell, and know for a fact that her children Thomas and Susannah did.
One daughter appears to be Mary Ann Clegg, who married in South Aust in 1874. Her father was given as Benjamin Clegg and she was aged 24, meaning a birth c 1850. She married in Clare, where three other women are married who name their father as Thomas Clegg. Was this the Thomas who fathered Ann Lee’s son Thomas born 1858? Clare was quite a distance from Noarlunga so I wonder if Thomas a relation of Benjamin’s?

Ann Lee/Clegg/Tuckwell’s actual marriage to Edward Tuckwell lasted all of 4 months, when he died.  She married Elijah Brown in 1873 at Noarlunga.

Edward Tuckwell was a convict transported to Tasmania in 1829 after being convicted at the Old Bailey for stealing 7 fowls. Once he received his Ticket of Leave in Tasmania, he sought a new start in South Australia, as many convicts did.


To my brick walls……

1.  Finding more about the families of Benjamin Clegg and Ann Lee….
     
All I can find in the 1841 Census is the following possibility for Benjamin Clegg,
      though the age doesn’t really compute with him saying he was of full age in
    1842…… HO107/1326/6/27/1

For Ann Lee I have found the following possibility….. HO107/1326/6/27/1
(Ann Lee’s age at her second marriage in 1869 was given as 48 and at her 3rd marriage in 1873 as 51.)

For Ann’s father John Lee the only likely person found is the following….
HO107/1326/6/27/1

2. Another brickwall is what happened to Benjamin  Clegg, Ann’s first husband?
According to evidence given by Ann in a court case in 1884, and I quote from the newspaper report…. “Witness's husband, Clegg, deserted her and was killed.”
I can’t find a death for him in Australian records. I do know that Ann had more children with other men listed as the fathers. I also know that she appears to have lead a rather “free” life.

3. I haven’t been able to find anything about Edward Tuckwell in England. All I know is that he was born c1809 possibly in Uxbridge, and he was a brickmaker working for a Thomas Mills in Limehouse when he was arrested.

4. Any other snippets that anyone can find would be most helpful.

Fingers crossed that someone will be able to help with some snippet of information!

Correction to the above.

The Benjamin Clegg 1841 reference is the HO107/1326/6/27/1 one.
For Ann Lee the most likely one found (going on her age at her third marriage and death) is  HO107/1340/5/22/6



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Re: Dee's Clegg/Lees Scavenger Hunt..Everyone Welcome To Join In
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 14:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm searching! :)

I hope Dee comes on soon ..seems like a convoluted story! Lots in the newspapers regarding Benjamin, the son.

deb
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 15:32 GMT (UK) »
Deetwin :)

You have given us the 1841 references for the Lees and Ben Clegg ...but they are all the same!  :-\
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 17:51 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

Dee ...where did you find the reference to Edward Tuckwell being born in Uxbridge?

There are a few Tuckwells being married and baptised there...unfortunately no Edward!
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dee

I wonder who was writing to Benjamin Clegg in 1846 & 1847?

There are unclaimed letter notices for him::

South Australian (Adelaide) newspaper:
Friday, 9 January 1846
Tuesday, 12 October 1847

oo and one under Benj. Clegge
Friday, 2 April 1847
Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Deetwin :)

You have given us the 1841 references for the Lees and Ben Clegg ...but they are all the same!  :-\

Oops, Debtwin......I'll check that out shortly.  Senior's moment!   ::)

Added....correction....

The Benjamin Clegg 1841 reference is the HO107/1326/6/27/1 one.
For Ann Lee the most likely one found (going on her age at her third marriage and death) is  HO107/1340/5/22/6
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 20:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm searching! :)

I hope Dee comes on soon ..seems like a convoluted story! Lots in the newspapers regarding Benjamin, the son.

deb

Yes....the newspaper items about Benjamin the son helped to sort out some of the story in South Australia. They make interesting if somewhat shocking reading!   ;D
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 20:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi again

Dee ...where did you find the reference to Edward Tuckwell being born in Uxbridge?

There are a few Tuckwells being married and baptised there...unfortunately no Edward!


From his Convict Records, Deb.   :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 20:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dee

I wonder who was writing to Benjamin Clegg in 1846 & 1847?

There are unclaimed letter notices for him::

South Australian (Adelaide) newspaper:
Friday, 9 January 1846
Tuesday, 12 October 1847

oo and one under Benj. Clegge
Friday, 2 April 1847

If only one could still get hold of those letters!

Thanks for trying Deb.   :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk