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Re: looking for Daniel Park on a ships list going to Australia from Scotland 1901
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 23:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi ros, Thank you so much for taking the time to do some research for me. Daniel Park has been a bit of a mystery as it was my gran who used to talk about him living in Perth Australia and she said that he was also blind ( don't know how accurate this is) His birth date is definitely 29th oct. 1871 and as you mentioned he did have brothers, sorry I did'nt mention them as we thought that they had stayed in Scotland. He had brothers called Alexander Park born 9th may 1874. Thomas Park born 28th sept. 1865. James Park born 19th aug. 1868. He may also have had a brother called John but we are not sure. My gran only ever talked about her uncle Dan (Daniel) and not the other uncle's as she always said that he had went to Australia. I believe you have solved some of the mystery at least we know a bit more now. We were even thinking that he had came back to Scotland at some point as I did try to check for his death records in Australia but also came up zero. We were also told by my gran that Daniel Parks niece called Margaret Conn had emigrated to Australia in 1921 to stay with him when she first arrived there, however, the said Margaret Conn arrived in Adelaide in 1921 and stayed at 42 Unley road, Unley.S.A. until her sudden death in 1922. We don't even know who sent her belongings back to Wishaw in Scotland, maybe it was one of her uncle's. Sorry I have wandered onto another story there. If you have any more info. about Daniel Park's brothers I would be very grateful if you could let me know. Thanking you in anticipation, you have been so kind. Regards Dobelove.

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Re: looking for Daniel Park on a ships list going to Australia from Scotland 1901
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Immigration records to not necessarily record all immigrants. If someone paid their own fare for example, there may not be records of them entering Australia. This may have happened to your Daniel. And lies were often told on immigration records too (one of mine shaved 10 years off his age.  ;))

So Ros looking for death records was a good idea, unless, as you say, he headed back to Scotland at some stage.

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Re: looking for Daniel Park on a ships list going to Australia from Scotland 1901
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 14 November 12 07:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi dobelove,
  I haven't found anything definitive I'm afraid.   :(

  You can get a free transcription of death certificate for Margaret Conn from Unley Library http://www.unley.sa.gov.au/page.aspx?u=1234 although South Australian certs are not very informative.

  I can see Miss Margaret Conn, age 25, nursemaid, departing 29-1-1921 from Glasgow to Adelaide on the Ascanius.

  How very sad that she died so young - was it an accident?

 (I've been searching for death notices for her  in local papers hoping that they may give a clue to Daniel's whereabouts ...  but no luck)

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Re: looking for Daniel Park on a ships list going to Australia from Scotland 1901
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 14 November 12 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Death notices are a good idea Ros. Maybe Daniel's brothers deaths or wills (?) may be worth investigating.
(I did have a quick look for any mentions of Daniel Park on Trove but couldn't see anything obvious, then I had to go out ....)


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Re: looking for Daniel Park on a ships list going to Australia from Scotland 1901
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 14 November 12 11:11 GMT (UK) »
Now trying to track down a Park living in Unley ... 

In 1922 South Australian Directory (Sands) there is a Jas R Park at 321 Unley Road, Malvern Extension.

Did James have a middle name?

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adding : No I found his baptism

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Re: looking for Daniel Park on a ships list going to Australia from Scotland 1901
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 14 November 12 11:46 GMT (UK) »
This is a strange story about an influenza epidemic which seemed to be localised to Unley Road in 1919 which was subsequently quarantined.  The residence quarantined today was that occupied by Mrs Dick of 42 Unley Road where a child is suffering from influenza. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article63760132

Is there a Mrs Dick in the family?

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Re: looking for Daniel Park on a ships list going to Australia from Scotland 1901
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 14 November 12 12:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Can't see that it is mentioned but Margaret is buried at West Terrace Cemetery.

http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/RecordsSearch.aspx

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Re: looking for Daniel Park on a ships list going to Australia from Scotland 1901
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 15 November 12 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Immigration records to not necessarily record all immigrants. If someone paid their own fare for example, there may not be records of them entering Australia. This may have happened to your Daniel. And lies were often told on immigration records too (one of mine shaved 10 years off his age.  ;))

So Ros looking for death records was a good idea, unless, as you say, he headed back to Scotland at some stage.
  Hi there, not sure if Daniel would pay his own fare as he was a general labourer not a very well paid job, however you never know. Thank you so much for your ongoing help with this. Kind regards Dobelove.

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Re: looking for Daniel Park on a ships list going to Australia from Scotland 1901
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 15 November 12 23:26 GMT (UK) »
Immigration records to not necessarily record all immigrants. If someone paid their own fare for example, there may not be records of them entering Australia. This may have happened to your Daniel. And lies were often told on immigration records too (one of mine shaved 10 years off his age.  ;))

So Ros looking for death records was a good idea, unless, as you say, he headed back to Scotland at some stage.
  Hi there, not sure if Daniel would pay his own fare as he was a general labourer not a very well paid job, however you never know. Thank you so much for your ongoing help with this. Kind regards Dobelove.

You are right, but some people were still able to afford the fares somehow. 
Alternatively, a family member (or employer) could have paid his fare?

All speculation of course, but it may just be a reason why you can't find him on an immigration lists.

Do you know if Daniel had a middle name which he may have used rather than 'Daniel'?