"Concord Farm" (NSW)

[Lady Di]

Thanks a lot Neil.

I also had a look for George Thorne but there appears to be more than one by this name. Wasn't sure which one was the "Merchant" who advertised the property. First sighting of "George Thorne & Co" appeared to be 1848 so looks like that's when he started his business.

Appreciate your help

Di

[Neil Todd]

You may have read this, but I still attach.
http://www.capecabarita.com.au/history.htm
Interesting stuff
There is a note at the bottom for further information you can contact the webmaster. Tha ma yeild some enlightening maps

Neil

[Lady Di]

Thanks for the link and info Neil.

After a lot of searching and map hunting/reading there appears to be very few land grants for specifically 75 acres in the right area (opposite Ryde & Kissing Point)

William Morgan had two grants totalling 80 acres (yellow on map) but although the original grantee died in 1853 his family appear to still live there in 1856 (Electoral Roll)

Nichols (Pink on map) had a couple of grants but got into financial trouble and his land was bought by Thomas Walker and Walker built Yaralla on that land (home still exists today)

The only grant I can see on this map for 75 acres exactly (yellow) is that granted in 1795 to three guys (Butcher,Roberts and Miller) They called the farm "Batchelor's Hall" I can find nothing else about these three guys.

The land around Hen & Chicken Bay (green) was subdivided in 1856 and sold off in small 1 or two acre lots so that rules that area out.

... not that you REALLY wanted to know all that info 

Thanks for your help

Di

[Peter Selley]

If it is of any help:

In 1815 Richard WESTCOTT (3 Pitt St Sydney) advertised for sale (Trove) Burr's Farm, in the district of Concord, 60 acres (and Serjeant Day's Farm -25 acres).

In October 1816, the Provost Marshall advertised an auction of a farm formerly known as Burr's farm in Concord in Campbell v WESCOTT.

It does look as though this Richard Wes(t)cott was the convict transported per Indian in 1810, also his wife Jane (Canada II, 1808) jointly convicted in Devon of possessing a forged pound note. They were living together in York St in 1822-4.

[Lady Di]

Hi repatdoc

Welcome to Rootschat and many thanks for your help.

It's been a while since I last looked for Concord Farm but your information might just be the lead I need to find exactly where the farm was located.

I'm hoping that Burr's Farm and Day's Farm are located side by side and were purchased by the same person. Hopefully the new extended property was then leased during the 1850's.

Thanks

Di

[Andcarred]

Hi Di,

I am joining this query a bit on the late side (story of my life!!) but I think you will find William Morgan is the legal husband of the infamous Molly Morgan.   After he got fed up with Molly and her infidelities with Nicholas Nepean and other soldiers he left her and took up with the widow Eleanor Frazer, wife of a friend.  Eleanor (nee Redchester) had been granted the land at Concord on the death of her husband, William Frazer, one of the colony's first blacksmiths.  Eleanor and William Frazer were convicts.  William Morgan also got a grant next door if my memory serve me correctly.  On Eleanor's death in the 1820s (from memory) I think the land was left to one of the Frazer sons who always went by the name of Morgan although I am sure he was the son of William Frazer.  Eleanor Frazer and William Morgan had parted company but the children seem to have kept the name Morgan.   

Andcarred

[majm]

 

Eleanor FRAZER letters 20 Feb 1794 and 22 July 1795.   On the NSW Col Sec’s  list of all grants and leases of land

William MORGAN, letters 20 Feb 1794 and 22 July 1795.  On the NSW Col Sec’s list of all grants and leases of land.    Col Sec’s index shows William MORGAN as a Settler at Concord.   

http://colsec.records.nsw.gov.au/indexes/colsec/default.htm   I understand that Ancestry has a current partnership arrangement with NSW State Records re images of the Col Sec’s papers 1788-1825

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

1797 Ann, daughter of William Morgan and Elenor Morgan, born 8 Sept 1797, baptised 15 Nov 1797, registered St Philip’s C of E
1800 Lucy, daughter of William Morgan and Eleanor Fraser, born 29 March 1800, baptised 7 August 1803, registered St Philip’s
1802 William son of William Morgan and Eleanor Fraser, born 26 Jan 1802, baptised 7 August 1803, registered St Philip’s
1804 Sarah, daughter of William Morgan and Eleanor Frazer, born 16 Feb 1804, baptised 4 Nov 1804 by Rev Samuel Marsden, registered at St John C of E, Parramatta on 4 Nov 1804
1806 Richard, son of William Morgan and Elenor Frazier born 2 Nov 1802, baptised 29 March 1812, by Rev Samuel Marsden, registered at St John’s C of E, Parraatta

Ellen FRASER, per Charlotte or per Prince of Wales 1788, 23 years, born Lancashire,  sentence of 7 years for felony.  Two spouse  1 William Fraser married in England ;  2 William Morgan, no formal marriage found.
Seven children, died 1840, 

July 1800
Eleanor Fraser Land Granted 20 Feb 1794, Concord.   Cultivated, 16 acres maize.  No stock, proprietor and 4 children not on Stores.

July 1801
Elenor Frazier, per Charlotte, Free, Land granted by Gov. Grose 1794,
20 Acres, cleared 16 acres
Cultivated 5 acres wheat/maize
2 hogs, 2 family off store
 
July 1802
Elenor Frazer, per Charlotte, Free, Land Grant Concord
Total 45 acres
Cleared 15 acres
Cultivated 15 acres
Maize
1 male hog,  1 female hog,
Proprietor off stores, 1 woman off stores, 5 children off stores

Aug 1806
Elinor Frazier, per Lady Penrhyn,
Concubine, Children, 2 male natural, 3 female natural

Aug 1806
Eleanor Frazier, per Lady Penrhyn, lives with Morgan

Much more, (musters etc) including
NSW 1828 census
Mrs Eleanor MORGAN, aged 63, Protestant, arrived per Charlotte, 7 years, Free by Servitude. Housekeeper and head of household at Concord.  Including her son, Richard Morgan aged 22, born in the colony

Happy to type all the ‘much more’ if this is not already known.

Cheers,  JM

[Lady Di]

Many thanks Andy & JM

Interesting about the Morgan/Frazer crowd. Somewhere in the back of my mind I have something written about Eliza Frazer - she may have been a relative albeit a distant one.

I'll check and see if anything's reported about their land grant by the mid 1850's

I recall that my lot had a Sunday School Picnic. About 100 people arrived by ferry and it's reported that they (all the Mum's Dad's & kids) walked from the ferry wharf at Concord to the farm for a day of fun and picnicking. Sounds as if the walk was just a short hop from the wharf so I'm guessing that Concord Farm is reasonably close to the water's edge.

Thanks for your help

Di