"Concord Farm" (NSW)

[Neil Todd]

You can check this on Google Earth!!!

Burwood Road Concord, A small Peninsular of Land between Exile Bay and Canada Bay running down to Bayview Park.

At least I think thats where it was.

Neil

[Lady Di]

Hi

My husband's GGGrandfather was born at Longbottom  ( I think this was the early name for Concord) a lot of information on Longbottom Farm.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/17005869?searchTerm=longbottom farm&searchLimits=

Muss

Thanks Muss - I've never heard of Longbottom but they do seem to have changed so many of the original names that it doesn't make it any easier looking for one tiny farm in the middle of Sydney 

Thanks Neil - I found the Canada Bay peninsular on Google Maps as suggested but that area doesn't appear to be anywhere near Kissing Point/Ryde. Very frustrating 

I saw the death for Richard Wescott in 1826. I thought he may have been a convict ex Devon but haven't looked any further. Not a lot of information about him online either ... unless his name was Westcott?

Di

[majm]

http://blog.sl.nsw.gov.au/erecords/index.cfm/2012/1/13/nsw-parish-maps
http://parishmaps.lands.nsw.gov.au/pmap.html


Di,  I think You need to find the mid 19thC maps for the County of CUMBERLAND, Parish of CONCORD.   The NSW Lands dept link is not exactly user friendly BUT it will be the way to go !
   I think you need images from barcode 140949 and there abouts.    I think Sheet number “6” may have landholders names on it, from when the Robertson Act of 1861 started to about mid 1880’s.

PS, if anyone knows how to make the lands dept’s parishmaps website more user friendly, please please please let me know.

I too have some trivia ….   

About 1965.    JM and her father are in Sydney visiting one of his many siblings.    We were staying with his Dad & Mum at Top Ryde..    He wanted to go to one of his sisters for lunch.   My auntie lived at Cabarita.   It took us MANY hours to get there…..  We relied on my Dad’s sense of direction.   So we caught a bus to Wynyard, via the old Wooden Gladesville Bridge.   Then we walked to Central, and caught a train to Ashfield.  Then we changed trains (for some unknown reason) and got off at Burwood.   Then we caught a cab !   Auntie got a neighbour to drive us back across to Top Ryde after we had a very late lunch.  Dad maintained the delays were caused by the government stopping the TRAMS out to Watsons Bay.     …..  Dad had very good sense of direction OUT IN THE BUSH, but was bushed in the city.

Cheers,  JM

[Lady Di]

Excellent JM - thanks for the direct link.

I've been trying to find that info all day  although it looks like I could be rather busy trying to find the right place anyway.

I've also just realised that the farm may be south of the river because the original ad. says "situate on the Parramatta River opposite to Ryde, and within a pleasant distance of Sydney, by either land or water."

As far as I can see, none of the bridges were built until well after 1875 which means it would be rather a challenge trying to get from the Ryde side to Sydney BY LAND if there's no bridge. A journey somewhat like your journey - a long a tedious trip 

Thanks for your help

Di

[majm]

NSW ER 1870 CANTERBURY
John ABBOTT residence CONCORD
William WILKINS, householder at LONGBOTTOM
Joseph BAGUST, householder, Parramatta Road, LONGBOTTOM 
William BARCLAY, freeholder, Longbottom and Burwood


Canterbury covered parts of BOTANY, CONCORD, WATERLOO, KINGSTON, ASHFIELD, FIVEDOCK, -PETERSHAM, WAVERLEY, BURWOOD, MARRICKVILLE, ST PETERS, WOOLLAHRA, RANDWICK, ST PETERS, BALMAIN ESTATE, PARISH OF ST GEORGE, TEMPE, ARNCLIFFE and other localities.     I cannot see any that were NORTH of Parramatta River. 

Cheers,  JM

[Lady Di]

Do you mean Cumberland rather than Canterbury?

I have 1856ER - North Riding of Cumberland which lists places such as Lane Cove, Greenwich, Concord, Parramatta Road, Longbottom!! , Five Dock etc.

I see what you mean about the Parish Maps - a total headache  . Surely they can do something better or we're missing the obvious 

Di

[majm]

NO     The electorate in 1870 was CANTERBURY.       And the one further west was CENTRAL CUMBERLAND as in Parramatta and a tad west of Ptta.    Mind you, the electorate for Ryde in 1870 was ST LEONARDS which went basically from Brooklyn SOUTH as far as the Parramatta River, and in the west to at least Dundas and in the east to Manly   

[majm]

Re that Parish Map website .....  I rarely even offer it cause it gives me a headache.    There must be someone cluely on the Tech board here at RChat that could give us some advice.   Would you like me to start a thread there and ask for advice.   Afterall, I am old enough to offer that I am having an extended senior moment with that website.


PS,   the maps are on CD at NSW SRO at Kingswood and are much easier to use there. .....  Well the maps were there around four or five years ago     I think colloquially known as the TRIG maps 

JM

[Lady Di]

Thanks for the clarification. Just knew there'd be some logic in all of this - NOT!
It's like knocking your head against a brick wall  
The only good news is when you stop trying to make sense of it all  

Oh well - back to the maps for another attempt  
 - but firstly need a strong coffee!

Di

Red warning ...

TRIG MAPS ... not quite what I'd call 'em 

Feel free to see if anyone has found a miracle answer to those maps. I can't see that there's any easy way because of the way there's been scanned. If they'd done one big scan with an option to zoom and move the map around, then it would be OK. But individual maps and no ability to move it is just plain dumb.

Sorry - Rant over

back to those trig... maps!!

Cheers
Di