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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson Revisited
« Reply #63 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 21:56 GMT (UK) »
Just read your post properly  ::) and they reckoned they searched 1846-1848.  Perhaps her age does not match what's on the death cert  :-\ .I still wonder if a letter would be the best approach  :-\
Perrins - Manchester and Staffs
Honan - Manchester and Ireland
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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson Revisited
« Reply #64 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 22:02 GMT (UK) »
This is not good news!  :-\

I've just come home so will have a search around!

Looked for a death for Ann Fox yesterday ... Just not sure which one she may be.

Are we positive she was born 1801 as on one of the censuses she was born circa 1811.... Not sure what Nat said on her birthday....

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson Revisited
« Reply #65 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi guys

What about this one ...remember Matthew Ward was reg. in Strand, Westminster.

Mary Ward
Dec q 1847
St James Westminster
London
1 113


Her mother, Granny Shepard lived in Richmond buildings but died in the infirmary, her death was reg. in St Pancras ....
so another possible...

Mary Ward
Dec 1847
Pancras London
1 328


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson Revisited
« Reply #66 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Nat mentions the date:
Ann Fox born 9 Oct 1801

But no guarantee that the informant knew this.  :-\

Thanks for the suggestions for Mary Ward's death Deb. I will have another try for her d/c.  Although disappointing, at least now the payment is refunded if the event is not found.  :)


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson Revisited
« Reply #67 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 22:32 GMT (UK) »
I need to slow down  :-\

Okay ...This is Granny Shepard's burial ...I said her death was reg. St Pancras ... sorry

This is what we have:
 20th Nov 1851
Parish of St Pancras
Mary Shepard buried, age 80, abode: Infirmary

1852 
Nathaniel moved from Richmond Buildings to Islington

Is St Pancras the same as Pancras ?

Can we find Granny Shepard's death reg...?


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red post ...Hi Ruskie
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Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson Revisited
« Reply #68 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 22:43 GMT (UK) »
Okay  8)

Granny Shepard was in Strand Union Workhouse, Tottenham Court in 1851 …that’s in the PANCRAS reg district.

I wonder if that’s were Mary Ward ended up? If so then this one would fit:
Mary Ward
Dec 1847
Pancras London
1 328

But is the St James Westminster one a fit too, although Matthew's death was reg in ST ANNE'S Westminster ...are they close to each other?

I can't see one in Strand.

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Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson Revisited
« Reply #69 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Deb I was just about to order the Westminster one when I saw your post. I just checked and this is what they say about the registration district:
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/reg/districts/st%20james%20westminster.html

Confusing, but I suppose her death still could have been registered in St James. It only takes her to have been staying with a friend or relative or in the workhouse as we suspect, for her death to be registered elsewhere.

Do you think it might be better if I specify that she is the wife of Matthew Ward rather than her address being Richmond Buildings? For all we know she may not have been living at home for months before her death ....  :-\

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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson Revisited
« Reply #70 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 23:03 GMT (UK) »
Are you allowed to tell them she was the wife of Matt and lived at Richmond buildings?

having said that, if they have done a search with the requirement being Richmond Buildings and can't find anything than I would rather specify that she was the wife of Matthew ward!

will look at your link

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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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Re: The Diary of Nathaniel Bryceson Revisited
« Reply #71 on: Wednesday 28 November 12 23:09 GMT (UK) »
Hummm ...now I'm not sure about the St James reg dist. ..includes : Sub-districts : Berwick, Golden Square, St. Jamess Square.

Whereas Strand included St Anne Soho ...which is Richmond buildings ...

arrggghhhhhhhhhhhhh

Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton,  Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans


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