1861 Name Index - Wolstencroft - please

[Ceci]

I am wondering if John Amorias Wolstencroft appears in the index for the 1861 census, possibly in Liverpool. I am hoping to find him married to Ann (formerly) Clark who I think may have been born in Yorkshire, but I am not sure about this. All I know is that they had a daughter, Emma Maria Wolstencroft born 2 June 1864 at Croston Court, Liverpool. The number is unclear, but possibly number '1'.
John Amorias' occupation on the birth certificate is Seaman Merchant Navy, but on Emma Maria's marriage certificate in 1883, his occupation is Inn Keeper.

Emma Maria was married in Pickering, North Yorkshire, but I am not sure whether the whole family had moved there or whether it was just Emma. In 1871, I found her with Robert & Sarah Jane Dobson, in Sinnington, near Pickering, and she was down as their niece. Sarah Jane was the daughter of John Allanson & Sarah Clark, who had a sister, Ann, but if she was Emma Maria's mother, that would make her Sarah Jane's cousin, not niece. I am trying to sort out exactly how they were related, so any further information on Emma Maria's parents would be a great help. I have not found their marriage on FreeBMD, but finding them with or without any children in the census might help to narrow it down.

Many thanks
Ceci

[JRedfern]

1861 England Census
RG9/2367
Liverpool

 

Ann Woolstencroft abt 1833  born Wilton, Yorkshire, England Wife  Liverpool  Lancashire
John Woolstencroft abt 1829  born Tideswell, Derbyshire, England Head  Liverpool  Lancashire   
John A Woolstencroft abt 1854  born Manchester, Lancashire, England Son  Liverpool  Lancashire 



In the 1871 census of All Souls Manchester

Ann Wolstencroft, Widow, age 35, Provisions dealer, born Manchester
John Wolstencroft, som, age 17, Packer born Manchester
Sam Wolstencroft, age 4, In School


 


 
LDS Familysearch.org

 Amorias WOLSTENCROFT (AFN:56TK-46)  Pedigree 
 
 Born:  6 Apr 1828  Place:  Tideswell, Derbyshire, England
 Married:    Place:  Manchester, Lancashire, England
 
 Father:  Samuel WOLSTENCROFT (AFN:56TL-FV)  Family 
 Mother:  Martha (AFN:56TL-G2)   

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Wife's Name
 Ann ALLINSON (AFN:56TK-5C)  Pedigree 
 
 Born:  1828  Place:   
 Christened:  14 Dec 1828  Place:  Tideswell, Derby, England
 Married:    Place:  Manchester, Lancashire, England
 
 Father:   
 Mother:   

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Children

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1.  Sex  Name 
 F  Emma Maria WOLSTENCROFT (AFN:105X-LL7)  Pedigree 
 
 Born:  1864   Place:   
 Christened:  7 Aug 1864   Place:  Liverpool, Lancashire, England 

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2.  Sex  Name 
 M  John Amorias WOLSTENCROFT (AFN:105X-LJS)  Pedigree 
 
 Born:  1854   Place:   
 Christened:  5 Feb 1854   Place:  Manchester, Lancashire, England 

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3.  Sex  Name 
 M  William Henry WOLSTENCROFT (AFN:105X-LK1)  Pedigree 
 
 Born:  1858   Place:   
 Christened:  18 Apr 1858   Place:  Manchester, Lancashire, England 

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4.  Sex  Name 
 M  Samuel WOLSTENCROFT (AFN:56TJ-TN)  Pedigree 
 
 Born:  14 Sep 1866   Place:  Liverpool, Lanc's, England 
 Died:  Jan 1897   Place:  Stockport, Cheshire, Eng 

[Ceci]

Thank you JRedfern.

The 1861 census looks very interesting with Wilton being exactly where I expected Ann to have been born.

I wonder whether the submitter to familysearch tried to solve the same relationship problem and assumed that Ann's maiden name must have been Allanson which fits a lot better than Clark, or whether these are two separate families.

I am fairly confident that I have the right marriage & birth certificates for Emma Maria and therefore that Ann's maiden name was Clark. The marriage certificate has her marrying Thomas Hood and later that year, Sarah Jane Dobson (Allanson) is remarried, and Emma Maria Hood and Thomas Clark are witnesses.

I did a search on the 1871 census on Ancestry and found this, but don't have access to the record. I wonder if anyone can look it up for me?

Ann Wolstencroft b.1833 Yorkshire, census place Lancashire

Thinking about it, I should probably start a new post for this.

Many Thanks
Ceci

[JRedfern]

The maiden name of the wife here is Shaw.

1871 England Census

 
John Shaw abt 1801  Slathewaite, Yorkshire, England Father-in-law  Oldham  Lancashire   
Ann Wolstencroft abt 1833  Brighouse, Yorkshire, England Wife  Oldham  Lancashire   
Fred S Wolstencroft abt 1871  Oldham, Lancashire, England Son  Oldham  Lancashire   
John Wolstencroft abt 1836  Oldham, Lancashire, England Head  Oldham  Lancashire   
John A Wolstencroft abt 1865  Brighouse, Yorkshire, England Son  Oldham  Lancashire   
Samuel Wolstencroft abt 1867  Oldham, Lancashire, England Son  Oldham  Lancashire   
Sarah J Wolstencroft abt 1863  Brighouse, Yorkshire, England Daughter  Oldham  Lancashire   
 

[Ceci]

Thanks again JRedfern.

I obviously shouldn't have started a new post. I had a reply to both within a couple of minutes of each other. Sorry, I really didn't mean to do that.

Great to have the father - in - law on this one. I can rule it out, but it also shows that there were a lot more Wolstencrofts than I thought and with the same first names.

Many thanks for your help,
Ceci