What happened to great-great aunt Hannah?

[jojo1973]

Seeking help in finding info for Hannah MacIntyre..This is what i know,born around 1890 in Tobermory,Scotland to Peter and Christina(McPhail) MacIntyre. Arrived in Canada Sept.21,1920 intended to friend Mrs.Mary Wilson,Albany Street,Winnepeg. Hannah arrived as a widow,married name was Gorman. Her sister Tina(my great grandmother) and brother-n-law Robert McClinton(my great grandfather) joined her there within the year. My grandmother was born in Winnepeg in 1922 and lived there until moving to New York in 1930,so im kind of assuming that Hannah would have been there at least that long as well. I cant find any record of her after arriving in Canada. At her age i would assume(again that she would have re-married..Any help with this missing aunt would be so greatly appreciated!!! Thanks for your time,Jodi(Kentucky)

[cosmac]

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php

Manitoba Vital Statistics has a 03/11/1922 marriage of Hannah Gorman to Samuel McWhinnie
The certificate should cost $12.00 to obtain

[jojo1973]

Thank you so much for that link!! It seems i now have another name to finally go on..And i now have only 10 more years before i can request my grandma's birth cert....Oh lucky me Thanks again...Jodi

[cosmac]

From Canadian Voters lists there was a Samuel McWhinnie, with wife, listed on the 1935 voters list for Winnipeg South riding.  He was a caretaker and resident in an apartment block.  Nothing after that in Winnipeg unless the transcription has been horribly mangled

[Jacquie in Canada]

The Winnipeg Free Press dated 22 May 1945 has an "In Memoriam" entry for Hannah McWhinnie which says:

McWhinnie, Hannah
May 22, 1944
Sadly missed and lovingly remembered - Dad and Doug

There is a brief death announcement in the 23 May 1944 edition of the Free Press which indicates Hannah was the wife of Samuel and was to be buried at Elmwood Cemetery. No mention of other family members in the notice.

I haven't been able to find any mention of Samuel McWhinnie in the Free Press other than in the death notice.

As for obtaining a copy of your grandmother's birth certificate, if your grandmother is no longer alive then her next-of-kin (ie any of her children) can order a copy of the registration however it would cost $30 Canadian to order it. Here is a link to the form needed to order it:
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/pdf/application_birth_certificate.pdf

Jacquie

[jojo1973]

I would really like to thank you both for the info you have provided. The voter list confirmed that it was my Hannah and also listed a son i didnt know about(Robert Gorman,which was Hannah's first husbands last name).. I know it is alot to ask but could you look for any mention of Robert Gorman(born abt. 1914 in Scotland) in the newspaper mentioned. He lived with Hannah and Samuel in 1935 according to the voter's list.. I now have a new mystery with DAD&DOUG! And yes my grandmother passed a few years back so i guess my mother will be putting in a order soon.. Thank you both again,much appreciated! Jodi

[Jacquie in Canada]

Disclaimer: I've found an obituary for a Robert Gorman in Winnipeg but I can't say with any certainty that this is the correct person.

There was a Robert J. (Bob) Gorman who died 25 Feb 1972 at Misericordia Hospital in Winnipeg. The obituary says he was 59 years old, was born in Glasgow and came to Winnipeg at an early age which seems to match with the information you've provided. I see that ScotlandsPeople has a birth for a Robert John Gorman whose birth was registered in 1913 in Cathcart, Glasgow (the image can't be viewed but I believe you may be able to order a copy through their website) which is the same area where the marriage of Robert Gorman and Hannah McPhail McIntyre was registered.

If this is the correct Robert, his wife's name was Maude, he had a daughter Carol and he was buried at Chapel Lawn Memorial Gardens in Winnipeg. There was an obituary for Maude Louise Gorman who died 18 Mar 1988 in Victoria, British Columbia. It indicated she was predeceased by her husband, Robert and was survived by her daughter, Carol as well as her son-in-law Jamie Eakin and their daughter of Port Orchard, Washington. Some of her siblings are mentioned including one brother whose surname was Shaw. The Social Security Death Index has a death for a Carol A. Eakin who was born 31 Mar 1946, died 25 May 2002 and whose last residence was listed as Port Orchard, Kitsap County, Washington.

I found a transcript of an obituary at Ancestry for Carol Anne Eakin from the North Kitsap Herald which reads as follows:

Carol Anne Eakin, 56, a former resident of Port Orchard, died May 25, 2002.

She was born March 31, 1946 in Winnipeg, Canada to Robert and Maude (Shaw) Gorman.

She was a travel agent in Charleston, S.C. and was the former owner and operator of Advantage Travel in Port Orchard for 7 years.

She retired in 1997.

She is survived by her close friend R. Johnson* of Port Orchard and 8 grandchildren. There will be a private funeral.

Arrangements were handled by Pendleton-Gilchrist Funeral Home at Rill Chapel.

I haven't found a death for her husband Jamie but the Washington State Archives has some documents listed in their databases regarding the estate of James Eakin dated 1992.

I'm going to PM you with some other information. As I said at the start of the post, I can't say with certainty this is the correct Robert and family.

*If it is possible that a person is still alive I have just used their initial.

Jacquie

[Jacquie in Canada]

Regarding the "Dad and Doug" from the newspaper, it may be possible that "Dad" is Samuel. Some married couples do refer to each other as "Mom" and "Dad" (or variations) after they have had children.

I have seen some references in the Free Press to a Douglas McWhinnie between 1938 and 1943. In an article from 1940 he was referred to as a "boy soprano". Boys voices start to change when they hit puberty so a wild guess for a birth year would probably range from 1926-1930ish. It would be possible for this to be a son of Samuel and Hannah. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find anything about this Douglas that connects him to Hannah.

Jacquie

[Jacquie in Canada]

I have found something which indicates there was a connection between the Robert and Maude Gorman I've found and your Hannah. The Winnipeg Free Press dated 28 May 1940 has a brief article about a shower that was held for Maude Shaw, "bride-elect of June 1" which mentions the shower was "presided over by Mrs. G. McWhinnie". It is possible the "G" is a typographical error as sometimes a written "G" and "S" can be mistaken so it's possible the person made a mistake when transcribing their notes or something. Or the "G" and "H" are next to each other on the typewriter so another possible reason for a typo. Or Mrs. G. McWhinnie could be another relative.

Jacquie