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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 28 October 12 01:46 BST (UK) »
I have a birth date of 3 May 1845 for Dennis, but having checked FamilySearch (where I got the baptism info from) there's no mention of a birth date, so now I don't know where I got this from...

If James does belong to them, the latest Dennis could be born is January 1845. This would mean he is William & Eliza's illegitimate son. If his birth was registered on April 1 (to get him into the June registration quarter) then his birth would have had to have taken place after 26 February to get him within the 6 weeks. Though some fudging may have taken place...

Tony, I don't know about any extended family in Bilston. Eliza's family was from there, which I why they probably moved there. William's family was from Wolverhampton and he only had one surviving brother, whose children were all born in Australia (he was my ancestor). William's father was born in Staffordshire (according to the 1841 census) between 1791-1796, but that's all I know about him... But there were a lot of Wilds in the area!

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« Reply #19 on: Sunday 28 October 12 01:54 BST (UK) »
There is a James Wild baptised 15 Nov 1845 at St. Peter’s, Wolverhampton, to George & Hannah. He was a miner of Warwick Street. So it looks like this is the James who died in 1848, and thus not the son of William & Eliza.

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 28 October 12 09:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There is a baptist record for George and Hannah's daughter

Hannah Wild,
1 Jan 1848 St Peters
Father George, Mother Hannah
Abode Warwick St

Burial Record for Georges Wife

Hannah Wild,
10 Dec 1848 St Georges
Aged 27
Abode Warwick St

George Wild is still Living with his 2 daughters Hannah and Caroline, in Warwick St, on the 1861 census, so this may rule out there son James.

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 28 October 12 10:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi

There is only 1 birth registered and 1 death registered for a James Wild for the time frame, I wonder if the abode is where he died and not where he lived, and he is the son of George and Hannah, if this is so George may be related William.

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 28 October 12 11:18 GMT (UK) »
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Tony, I don't know about any extended family in Bilston. Eliza's family was from there, which I why they probably moved there. William's family was from Wolverhampton and he only had one surviving brother, whose children were all born in Australia (he was my ancestor). William's father was born in Staffordshire (according to the 1841 census) between 1791-1796, but that's all I know about him... But there were a lot of Wilds in the area!

Sorry Toban, I was going on the number of Wild burials at St Leonard's, 18 between 1784 and 1837, and assumed that they were possibly extended family.

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 28 October 12 11:30 GMT (UK) »
William did have a brother George, but moved to Australia in 1849. I don't know whether they had any cousins on the Wild side, as I'm unsure about their father's parentage. The only baptism I can find in the right time frame does not appear to have siblings...

No worries, Tony. As I said, there are a lot of Wilds in the area and I can't seem to connect my family to any of them!

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« Reply #24 on: Sunday 28 October 12 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi Toban

What information do you have on the brother George, and the baptist record that may be William

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« Reply #25 on: Sunday 28 October 12 12:15 GMT (UK) »
George (my GG grandfather) was born on 15 Sep 1827 and baptised 26 Oct 1827 in St Peter's Wolverhampton. He was convicted of larceny at age 19 on 11 Mar 1848 and sentenced to seven years' transportation. He received his Ticket of Leave less that a week after the convict ship 'Adelaide' docked in Sydney, on Christmas Eve 1849. He took up the carrying/carting trade in NSW and eventually settled in Wagga in the south of the colony, where he operated a 75-odd acre farm, married and raised a family of seven. He died on 25 Mar 1902 of apoplexy.

William was baptised on 26 Sep 1825 in St Peter's Wolverhampton. He was apprenticed to a hinge maker, with whom he is living when then 1841 census was taken. By the time he immigrated in 1858 his occupation was as an iron moulder. He bought a farm in Swampy Plain, near to his brother's property in Wagga. There he and his wife Eliza had four children, in addition to their daughter Ann, who had travelled from England with them. He died in 1879 of dropsy.

George and William's parents were John Wild and Ann Windle, who were married on 26 Feb 1816 in St. Peter's Wolverhampton. Ann died in 1839, and John is found in Ward Street, Wolverhampton, in 1841, a labourer, aged 45, living with his son George and (assumed) daughter Ann, aged 8. I don't know anything about John after this point, nor can I find a baptism for Ann.

John and Ann's other children are:
Harriet (1819-1904) married Henry Westwood, moved to Birmingham
John (1821-1841). At death of Walsall Street. This is a tentative death record at the moment...
Sarah (1824-1824)
Joseph (1830-1832)

There was also a Mathias Wild who died in 1840 at the age of 5 who I believe is also John & Ann's. This is because Ann's father's name was Mathias Windle.
A Samuel Windle was born to Ann Windle, seamstress, and baptised only two months before John & Ann were married, so it is probable that John was the father of him.

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #26 on: Monday 29 October 12 11:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi Toban

Thank you for the information, this confirms what I had found previous to your post, there are a few maybes for John Wilds baptist record but nothing definite.

One thing I did note is, that on the marriage for William and Eliza that J Wilds occupation was a Backer and this is old term for a Baker ???

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