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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #9 on: Friday 26 October 12 17:29 BST (UK) »
Well done Milliepede! looking at the record, it's difficult to see how it was transcribed as Wels as, comparing it to the style of writing on the other entries, it quite clearly says Wild. (I've put a correction in on Ancestry to update the record)

I'd also go along with Oxford Street MarjP

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #10 on: Friday 26 October 12 18:03 BST (UK) »
Well done Milliepede! looking at the record, it's difficult to see how it was transcribed as Wels as, comparing it to the style of writing on the other entries, it quite clearly says Wild. (I've put a correction in on Ancestry to update the record)

I'd also go along with Oxford Street MarjP

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Sadly neither are with us now Marg. The one on the left died in 2000 aged 14, and her sister died in 2004 at 18. I hope yours has as long a life as ours did. We now have one that decided to adopt us after living in the garden for a few weeks while she decided if we were up to her standards! We passed. ;D

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 27 October 12 00:41 BST (UK) »
Wow, that was quick. And so much done.

Milliepede, the informant for the death certificate was his widow Eliza. You'd think she'd know!

Tony, I have checked out the FreeREG, FamilySearch & Wolverhampton sites, but, as you mentioned, there's a fair restriction on what's available. Hard to verify who belongs to who....

I did have their 1851 census from Oxford Street, along with the note that they were mistranscribed as 'Wels.' But that James from 1848 is a new one! I'd put money on him belonging to William & Eliza.

This Wild family gives me headaches every time I come back and try and tackle them again. It's my direct paternal line, so I'd love to know more (well, everything!) about them, but they just don't want to cooperate...

William's father is also an issue...

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 27 October 12 00:47 BST (UK) »
Hmmm... I may want to take my money off James....

If his details are correct in his burial record, that his age actually was 2 years, 1 month, then that would put his birth in October, 1846. However, Ann (who we know is one of William & Eliza's) was born in May, 1847. With only seven months between them, it's biologically impossible for them to be siblings...

Having just checked the FreeREG entry for him, it notes that his age was 2 years, 11 months. But this doesn't help either, as it would put his birth in Dec 1845/Jan 1846 - only 7/8 months from the birth of Dennis. And I doubt any child born a month or more prematurely would have survived to the age of two in those days.

Can anyone locate James' baptism record to prove who he really belongs to?


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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 27 October 12 10:18 BST (UK) »
Hope it is ok to put his link on

http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/indexes

you can look through a few of the churches but if you go on all burials in the area you will find the James age 2yrs 11 months he was living Oxford Street at the time of his death but it gives no parents names.

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 27 October 12 14:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Toban

I am sorry about the information on James Wild burial record, it was 11 months on the parish record.

I would not rule out James yet , unless you have the actual date of when Dennis Wild was born, I am not 100% on this, but if he was born in March and not register until April he may have gone into that quarter.

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 27 October 12 16:51 BST (UK) »
Hi

This link may help with registrations of birth

See Column 1 and 8

http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/births.htm#ENTRY

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 28 October 12 00:22 BST (UK) »
Dennis's christening took place on the 8 June 1845 at St' Leonard's in Bilston, so it looks as though Eliza was "with child" at the time of her marriage to William. It does give added weight to Toban's argument that James may be from different parents, although still possibly part of the extended Wild family in Bilston.

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Re: Wild children of Bilston
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 28 October 12 00:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

That is a baptist record and could have been born any time before that date

Margp
Family History is a Pandora's box if you don't like what you see find a new hobby,only concentrate on the proven facts and not the facts you think you know.
Jenkins, Radnorshire. Herefordshire, Canada
Coley Dudley.
Baston, Cleobury Mortimer.Wolverhampton
Parker Stafford.
Hammond/s Wolverhampton.Shropshire
Duckworth Cheshire.
Proud Walsall.Proud Cape South Africa
Horton Darlaston.
Stanton Walsall.
Tudor. Radnorshire
Pittaway. Droitwich