1831-1841 look up request

[doosaphina]

I am looking for a John Ratcliffe born Epsom c.1792 married to Harriet. I believe they are in the surrey area they have a son William Ratcliffe but i think that he won't be on a cenus with them as he was born c.1816.

If anyone can help that would be great :0)

[patrish]

I  think I can see him in 1851 aged 59 a widower, living with his brother William, no luck yet on the 1841 though.

Looks as if he dies in 1855 Epsom

[karenlee]

Hi

Looking at the original image of the 1851 Census, this could well be your John as the William he is living with is actually his son.  The index has given an incorrect relationship between John and William, on the page it says Father not Brother....


1851 Census England Surrey Epsom
HO107/1592/411/22
Church Street

RATCLIFFE
William Head Marr 33 Agricultural Labourer Surrey Epsom
Sarah Wife Marr 37 Middlesex Hammersmith
William Son Unmarr 9 Scholar Surrey Epsom
James Son Unmarr 7 Scholar Surrey Epsom
John Son Unmarr 5 Scholar Surrey Epsom
Frederick Son Unmarr 2 Scholar Surrey Epsom
Eliza Dau Unmarr 11 Scholar Middlesex Hammersmith
John Father Wid 59 Agricultural Labourer Surrey Epsom

Cheers
Karenlee

PS  Hey Patrish 

[doosaphina]

Sorry i was meant to put William Ratcliffe as son, so that 1851 is the right one. I wonder where he was i 1841? i also got that he died i 1855...any tips on how i could find his parents.

I know he was married to a Harriet.

Thanks for the help.

[karenlee]

Hi

Not sure if you have this information, apologies if you do...

From Familysearch.org


Baptism Record
Epsom Surrey

John son of John and Harriet RATCLIFFE
Baptised 20th Dec 1818

William son of John and Harriet RATCLIFFE
Baptised 27th Oct 1816

Harriet daughter of John ane Harriet RATCLIFFE
Baptised 20th July 1823

Cheers
Karenlee

[Langley Vale Sue]

There is a male Ratcliffe aged 50, living on Epsom Common in 1841.  He is a labourer.  Also in the household are Sarah (60) and William (20).  The name has been transcribed as Jos on Ancestry, but it could be James or John!
HO 107/1070/3 page 6