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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #99 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 13:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Mmmm yes, I'd read about the Mary Ann MASON (Molesworth Street) earlier but after a while, dismissed it as being the same one.   Mary Ann appeared to be such a hard-working woman ... taking over John's business etc. and it all seemed (maybe), out of character.

But  ... the "Evening Post" article - 15 March 1878 - Resident Magistrate's Court, identifies a "William JENKINS" who states he is the son-in-law of Mary Ann MASON.

Marriage

Elizabeth Ann MASON - William JENKINS -- 1878

They didn't actually marry until December of that year - Marriage Notice - "Evening Post" - 16 December 1878 - page 2 :

[Birth reg'd 1860 - Elizabeth Ann MASON - d/o Mary Ann and John ]


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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #100 on: Tuesday 13 November 12 13:49 GMT (UK) »
... and this death notice :

"Evening Post" - 21 November 1918 - page 1 - Deaths

JENKINS - on 20 November 1918 at Sydney Street Hospital, Marshall John JENKINS b/l s/o Elizabeth Ann JENKINS, 11 a Wingfield Street ;  aged 34 years :

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Elizabeth Ann JENKINS lived to age 85 (d. 1946).
Buried at Karori Cemetery, Wellington with husband William and son "Jack" (Marshall John JENKINS).
Photos of plot available too.    Cemetery search at >>

http://www.wellington.govt.nz






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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #101 on: Wednesday 14 November 12 02:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Luc Evening Post 28 Nov 1874. Is letter to the paper re the children but it doesnt mention names just the ages.
    The William Jenkins seems most likely to belong to John and Mary Ann doesnt he as they had a daughter Elizabeth Ann and of course the Marshall name fixes it really.  So now I have to find out what happened to our Mary Ann Donnelly (Mason)  lol it sure makes for interesting days if nothing else.     So maybe it WAS our Mary Ann that went to jail for 3 months  for running an illegal house
I also got a copy of the Mason/Donnelly/Brown marriage however Mary Ann says she was born in Co Wickow Ire and her parents were William Fox and Ellen Sutton so thats a turnup for the books I thought her maiden name was Marshall??? and if its not her what on earth have we unearthed. She has date of death of James Donnelly correct (22 Jun 1900)so it would seem to be the correct marriage. I am now thoroughly confused   ???  AND her age on the marriage cert is 47 which makes her birth c 1854 whereas our Mary Ann Marshall was born c1832   Yikes methinks muddled  :o  Possibly lying about her age though of course.  cheers
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #102 on: Wednesday 14 November 12 19:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Luc - I did a marriage search on free bmd found a Mary Ann Fox marrying a James Marshall in Stoke Demerel Devon in 1848?  so ??? just adds to the confusion really.  Devon is a long way from Nottinghamshire/Derbyshire but guess its not impossible.  And Devon of course leads itself to someone from Ireland crossing the sea to there.  Im getting grumpy   :D  (not really)
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)


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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #103 on: Thursday 15 November 12 22:34 GMT (UK) »

I also got a copy of the Mason/Donnelly/Brown marriage however Mary Ann says she was born in Co Wickow Ire and her parents were William Fox and Ellen Sutton so thats a turnup for the books I thought her maiden name was Marshall??? and if its not her what on earth have we unearthed. She has date of death of James Donnelly correct (22 Jun 1900)so it would seem to be the correct marriage. I am now thoroughly confused   ???  AND her age on the marriage cert is 47 which makes her birth c 1854 whereas our Mary Ann Marshall was born c1832   Yikes methinks muddled  :o  Possibly lying about her age though of course.  cheers

Hi Patsy

Jeepers  ... that 1901 Mary Ann DONNELLY / William BROWN marriage cert. really is ODD !   :o

When I was at Archives the other week, I also dug up the Intention to Marry Notice.

ITM #  561 - 26 November 1901 - Wellington

BROWN - William - Baker - 54 years - Widower
Length of Residence :  6 years

Intends to marry   ...

DONNELLY - Mary Ann - 47 Years - Widow
Length of Residence :   25 years

Marriage Certificate Issued :   26  November 1901
R. Talbot - Deputy Registrar

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From Marriage cert. can you tell me please,

*  Are their places of residence noted (addresses) ?

*  Names / Occupations, of Witnesses to marriage ?

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #104 on: Thursday 15 November 12 22:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Patsy

re: 1901 Marriage ... I see you've noted it as Mason/Donnelly/Brown ??

*   I'm guessing it doesn't though have a reference to Mary Ann DONNELLY being previously "MASON" (or MARSHALL)  ??

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Also   ... please can you tell me the occupation given for William FOX (father of the bride) ?

Cheers
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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #105 on: Thursday 15 November 12 23:17 GMT (UK) »
From Electoral Rolls :

1896 - Wellington

DONNELLY


- Hughena Jessie - Married - Evelyn Place*
- Marshall John - Clerk - Webb Street
- Mary Anne - Married Woman - Webb Street
- James - Sergeant of Police - Lambton Quay*

[Notes: *   James DONNELLY ... died at his residence "7 Evelyn Place" - June 1900 :
James DONNELLY, according to his obituary, had left the Police Force "ten years prior to his death" - c. 1890 -- but in 1896 occupation still shown as "police sergeant" ?
Hughena Jessie (w/o Marshall John) is at Evelyn Place ?  Mary Ann (Anne) (presumably the mother of Marshall John) at Webb Street ??   Can only conclude that James / Mary Ann and Marshall John are maybe recorded on roll with their addresses being their places of work or business ?? ]

1900 roll to follow  >
 

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #106 on: Thursday 15 November 12 23:42 GMT (UK) »
Electoral :

1900 - Wellington City Roll

DONNELLY

- Hughena Jessie - married - Evelyn Place
- Marshall John - clerk - Webb Street
- Mary Ann - 71c Ghuznee Street - married woman
- James - Sergeant of Police - Martin Square* (residential)

[Notes:   James DONNELLY - deceased June 1900, still on Roll (haven't checked the "removals from roll" section). 
Mary Ann DONNELLY at a different address from 1896 ? ]

Also on same roll, this listing >>

BROWN - William - 71c Ghuznee Street - seaman* ??

[* So is this the same William BROWN who marries a Mary Ann DONNELLY (widow of James DONNELLY, Sergeant of Police) in 1900 ? ]

A William BROWN - cook, and Mary Ann BROWN - married -- are listed at 157 Taranaki Street, Wellington in 1911.

[We know William BROWN who married the Mary Ann in 1901 was a "baker" by occupation.   Possibly then he is the 1911 man listed as a "cook" ?   And if he was a cook, then he might also have done a "stint at sea" in that capacity, so could be the chap listed as a "seaman" in 1900 ??   There was only one other Mary Ann (Anne) DONNELLY on Wellington rolls (w/o of Francis, warder at Mt View Asylum). ]


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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #107 on: Friday 16 November 12 00:06 GMT (UK) »
Here's the  Karori Cemetery link  >>

http://www.wellington.govt.nz/services/cemeteries/search/search.php


Hi Patsy

It might be worthwhile getting in touch with the Karori Cemetery office (email addy at above link under "Parks and Gardens") to see if they can offer any further info on the Mary Ann (d. 1913 - aged 70)
and William BROWN (d. 1914 - aged 64) burials.

e.g.  Name of Plot purchaser (1913) ... address of (or any other info ) Next of Kin etc.
Address / occupation of William BROWN (d. 1914)

   ~  Lu