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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #81 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 00:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patsy

Like I said  ... lots more to come.   :D
[Have got some info too from UK census returns, will add this shortly ... but no harm of course in you searching further. ]   ;)

   ~  Lu

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #82 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 01:08 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Luc now where did the fact that Nottinghamshire comes in to it please?  I have looked at everything I have and the only County I have note of is Derbyshire where John and Mary Ann married. Not sure where the Nottinghamshire comes in and I have obviously missed something :(  No point in me searching Derby census if they were in Nottinghamshire.  Mind you I have spent some time doing just that and nothing seems to pop up as such.  cheers
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #83 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 01:42 GMT (UK) »
Have to admit there is better luck in the Nottinghamshire census. Now just need to know HOW I know that John came from Nottinghamshire originally??? :)
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #84 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 01:53 GMT (UK) »
Like the "Indian Queen" (1857), there is no "official" record of ALL immigrants who were aboard the "Kinnaird" to Wellington in 1859.   [Although for the "Kinnaird" we have the passenger list info originally sourced from a newspaper report.]

These two vessels and a number of others, were part of an Immigration Scheme known as the "Black Ball Contract" (named I think, after the shipping line who transported the emigrants to Wellington).  The scheme allowed for persons already resident in the Colony, to bring out to NZ, their relatives and friends.
There's an interesting article (from 1857) giving all the conditions etc. at ...

"Wellington Independent" - 16 February 1859 - page 1 / column 4  
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But unlike the "Indian Queen", there is no particular list showing the actual number of Promissory Notes held by each of the immigrants (or heads of family on behalf of others).  So it's been a case of having to scour the (unindexed) "Cash Books" and "Outward Letters" and  other "Correspondence" to glean a little more information.   :D
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MASON - John and family - per "KINNAIRD" (1859) appeared in a cash book dated 1860 ... with the amount of "50 pounds 10s" alongside of his name (and a note that Wm. MASON had provided the surety).   Only marginally helpful - but it did give a clue that that amount of passage money probably represented "a husband, wife, and two children under the age of 12".

Directly above that listing though was a "Jno. LEIGHTON and family" (for the same amount) ... sponsored by "W.F. MASON"  !!!

And John LEIGHTON (as I've now discovered), also has a MASON family connection.
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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #85 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 01:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patsy

   ... just about to explain (what I think is) the "Nottinghamshire" connection.


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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #86 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 02:31 GMT (UK) »
John LEIGHTON and family to Wellington 1859 per "Kinnaird".
[Sureties provided by :  W. F. MASON and William MASON ]

This John LEIGHTON who settled in Wellington, had a wife named Anna.
It appears that the two children who travelled with them were daughters, Elizabeth Sarah (b. Radford, Notts. - Mar 1855) and Ruth Mary LEIGHTON (b. 1857 - Portsea, Hampshire).  Further children born from 1860 at Wellington.

John LEIGHTON - died at Wellington 1871 aged 43 years [bc 1828] :
He is buried at Bolton Street Cemetery with wife Anna LEIGHTON - died 1916 aged 87 years [bc 1829 and dau. (Katie) Catherine Anna - d. 1880.] 

From FamilySearch :

Marriage at Radford, Nottinghamshire - June 1852

John LEIGHTON - Anna MASON


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Baptism:   28 December 1828 at Radford, Nottinghamshire

Anna MASON

Parents:   John MASON and Ruth

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John MASON
Born :   9 January 1831
Baptised : 10 February 1831


Parents :  John and Ruth MASON
Wesleyan, Nottingham, ENG
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Thomas MASON - baptised 15 December 1833 (John & Ruth MASON)
-- at Radford, Nottinghamshire

William MASON - baptised 1826 (died 2 March 1827)  (John & Ruth MASON)
-- at Radford, Nottinghamshire
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No guarantees ... (and maybe a bit strange that one is a Wesleyan baptism ?), but it seems a fair chance that the John MASON born 1831 is the brother of Anna LEIGHTON ?    And (the 1831) birth, is that of your John MASON ??
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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #87 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 02:36 GMT (UK) »
@ FamilySearch also  ...

Marriage - 9 January 1826 - Gedling, Nottinghamshire

John MASON - Ruth BRITTLE

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Baptism - 25 March 1804 - Gedling, Notts.

Ruth BRITTLE

Parents:   Thomas and Anna

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #88 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 02:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Patsy

What I'm not finding (so far) is any 1841 / 1851 census info for the MASON family of John and Ruth (parents) with children Anna (bc 1828) / John ( bc 1831)  etc.    ???

So, have John and Ruth MASON died before 1841 ... and their children been "farmed off" to other rellies ??

Lots more diggin' to do.    :D

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Re: Passenger list for INDIAN QUEEN 1857
« Reply #89 on: Tuesday 06 November 12 02:57 GMT (UK) »
I can only say BLIMEY you sure have the knack of digging out the facts. I see what you mean about being family though and maybe going on the balance of probablities etc etc  my John MASON is the brother of Anna Leighton too much of a coincidence otherwise wouldnt you say? You are very good at this Luc thanks heaps I would never have found anything without you. I hd been digging in the 1841 census but didnt find Ruth and John either. cheers Patsy
HAMLETT - SCOTT - ELLIS - EXLEY - GRAHAM - WELLS - JONES - PILKINGTON - BROWNING - WHEELER - BADGER - LOVEGROVE - ORCHARD - HERBERT - BADGER - BUDGIN - MUGGERIDGE - PATES - PAISH - HARPIN - STACEY - CARTER (UK) ELLMERS - GRASHOFF - VOGELSANG - BECKMAN - GIESCHEN (Achim German) MCMILLAN - ADAMS - BALLENTINE - FORDE - FAULKNER - MCNELLY - KANE - DORAN - BURKE (in Ireland) MORRISON - ROBERTSON - MCINNES (in Scotland)